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Author Low revs nearly cut off - Mid ok, high end lacks power...
Paul_J
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My car is a pain in the arse. I have a distant memory of what it used to be like when it ran nicely.

Several problems (not to mention the many things like fuel guage doesn't work, many bulbs like in the centre console are gone etc etc). Basically if I pull away in say 1st or 2nd gear, happens sometimes but not all, and booting it and pulling away really slowly...

Basically the car doesn't respond at all at first... Gets to about 2k rpm and then goes 'Chug chuga chug chug' as if it's about to cut out... but then passes that a sec later and then accelerates fine (with it pulling better at 3.5k - 4k rpm), but then really stops pulling at all after about 5100 rpm.

So basically if I go to race someone off the lights, my car won't even get going for a while (even in 1st) and for a couple of secs will kangeroo / chug when its on the move, as it passes about 2k rpm (big flat spot?).

Basically by keeping the revs over 2k at all times (which generally driving about is fine), it doesn't happen. However pulling out of junctions, across roundabouts and similar things - it has a tendancy of nearly cutting out.

I have no idea at all what is causing this?

I wouldn't of thought it'd be 'lack of air' - as the car is moving. Unlike booting it straight away off the lights and suffocating it (no air moving in) - we're talking about moving, with a steady air flow going through - plus it only happens as you pass 2k rpm, not before, not after.

Also, I remember my car pulling a lot better after 5k in the past, when I had it rolling roaded it made peak power at 5600 rpm - but pulled to the limiter pretty quick. Now as soon as it passes about 5200 rpm it's a waste of time, I might as well change gear as you can feel the power drop off.

I went out in Adi-Sri's corsa the other day 1.4 16v and his car pulled so much harder after 5k! all the way to 6500 rpm in no time at all. only 9 bhp difference.

Anyone got any idea's what either of these may be? (it's a 1.2 16v Sxi if you didn't know)

I thought possibly Air flow meter? but not sure. Idle Control Valve seems fine and lifting off the gas anywhere other than 2k does not cause problems.

chris1983
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timing out maybe??
broster
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oly 9bhp but the 1.4 will be better than a 1.2 IMO, sounds like a tricky one.....
Graham
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ive got the same problem with mine at the mo, specially when cold start. even if ive been using the car for a few hours then leave it for a few hours it'll do it again
mwg
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mine does the chug chug thing in first gear sometimes but apart from that I dont have any of those other problems
Mistamist
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fuel starvation? something might be up with the fuel pump as i had a similar problem with my dads frontera, midrange was alright, no top end and hesitates a lot low end.
Voyto
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16th Oct 04 at 14:51   View User's Profile U2U Member Reply With Quote

Mine did the same as this. Turned out to be a faulty Air Mass Meter. Apparently this is a common problem so try that ??
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coolant temp sensor
idle control valve
air mass meter

get it on the tech2 mate
Visionz
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EGR (if u have it)
DIS/Dizzy
Throttle Position Sensor
Richie
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17th Oct 04 at 00:50   View User's Profile U2U Member Reply With Quote

basically every sensor on the fookin car

Just to upset you even more im having the exact same problems with a very low MPG.

So far i have replaced the idle control valve, fuel filter, full service, air mass meter, crankshaft sensor, and lambda and it hasnt made a jack shit bit of difference. All earths ect have been redone also.
Richie
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And its an identical engine 1.2 16v X12XE on a V fucking shittest engine on earth, apart from the 1.0 12v
Graham
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richie the 1.0l 12v isnt that bad
ed
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Air mass meter
Crank position sensor
Coolant temp. sensor
Fuel pump/fuel pump relay
Dizzy could be fecked
Knackered spark plugs
Broke high tension leads

The list goes on....

Get you ass down to a mechanic and get some diagnostics done on it - or do the paperclip test if you can...
MarkM
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17th Oct 04 at 09:56   View User's Profile U2U Member Reply With Quote

Idle control Valve im betting....

Mine had similar symptoms before it went...
Richie
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like i said my ICV has been done and its still the same.
Paul_J
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Richie it's funny you should say about the MPG... My car drinks petrol fucking fast!

40 litres only gets me 250ish miles...

I thought it should be about 300-400 miles on 40 litres?
Mattb
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engine light on at all paul?
calidus
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50quid and someone can have my whole sxi lump and sensors, but no 'box n loom
Gez G
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quote:
Originally posted by flameredcorsab
coolant temp sensor
idle control valve
air mass meter

and the air flow meter, all of them have been replaced on my 99 corsa sxi 1.2 16v, in fact its had two idle control valves, a right pain in the arse!
Tom_1.216v
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mine does this aswell mate it so rough at the mo! and we both have thew 1.2 16v engine sounds like a really common problem.
mine
sounds like a tractor
has no pulling power!!
and jumps in first very dangerous when you nip out at a junction and your car like cuts out the refains power!

im putting mine in for a full severice and take it upto vauxhall to read out fault code. more money spent on the fcukin car

Paul_J
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Tom u2u me with what the results they find when they put it on the diagnostics please mate.

Vaux down here charge £76 just for a diagnostic check.
ed
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You could pay for the diagnostics, or you could just drive around in a knackered car, and possibly make the problem worse....
Paul_J
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I refuse to pay £76 when everywhere else in the country pays £35 or less for the same service.
ed
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Go somehwere cheaper then. Seems stupid to leave it when a car costs thousands to buy and most of the time hundreds to repair...
Mattb
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17th Oct 04 at 21:43   View User's Profile U2U Member Reply With Quote

quote:
Originally posted by Paul_J
I refuse to pay £76 when everywhere else in the country pays £35 or less for the same service.


vaux in chesham charge £30..

i also have a fault code reader..

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