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mwg
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   15th Nov 05 at 22:41   View User's Profile U2U Member Reply With Quote



I've noticed over the past couple of months that sometimes my car feels like it doesn't want to go. Sometimes when I put my foot down a bit in either 3rd or 4th gear it accelerates till about 4000rpm and then theres a definate jolt or judder and it wont rev any further. When I change up to the next gear it carries on like normal. This wasn't happening everytime.

Its started to become more frequent but the EML has never come on.

I've just been driving the car and its done the same as above but this time the EML came on until I changed up gear and it started accelerating fine again. Carried on driving as normal then decided to accelerate in 4th and see if it happened when I got to 4000rpm, and it did and the EML came on again. It always happens at the same rpm and only in 3rd and 4th gears.

I know the best thing to do and probably the only way to find out whats wrong is to have put on the Tech2 at Vauxhall but thought I'd get peoples thoughts first. It was at Vauxhall on the Tech2 about 3 months ago at the most and that time it was the ICV but it had different symptons to this.

Any ideas?

[Edited on 29-12-2005 by Matty G]
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15th Nov 05 at 22:43   View User's Profile U2U Member Reply With Quote

can you not do paperclip test?
mwg
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15th Nov 05 at 22:45   View User's Profile U2U Member Reply With Quote

Dont think it works on the X12XE
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15th Nov 05 at 22:50   View User's Profile U2U Member Reply With Quote

hmmm my x14xe is on the site so i cant imagine yours being much different

[Edited on 15-11-2005 by corsa_munky]
Rob B
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15th Nov 05 at 23:13   View User's Profile U2U Member Reply With Quote

o2 sensor Mine had same symptons and it was this, or you could just get someone to wack it on tech2 for you.
mwg
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16th Nov 05 at 08:53   View User's Profile U2U Member Reply With Quote

Cheers Rob. I'm going to get it put on the tech2 anyway but always like to have an idea of what it might be.

How much is an o2 sensor going to set me back
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mine's like this atm but the EML doesn't come on at all anymore not even when keys in ignition on stage 1 or watever it is think i need to change the bulb soon and fix it but cba
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The EML didn't come on till last night. Makes me angry

I want a simple engine that isn't full of electronic gismos that are continually fucking up!
Rob B
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16th Nov 05 at 14:02   View User's Profile U2U Member Reply With Quote

i have lots of spare 1.2 sensors
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you're more than welcome to send them my way Rob
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AFM or Idle Stepper motor.

Similar problem to mine, the AFM gave me problems only at trafic lights, car juddering etc.

The idle stepper motor was causing me problems, mainly wen i was just tickling the throttle in a 30 in 4th or 5th and the EML came on, car wanted to cut out etc.

Get it plugged in if you got a mate who can do it for you.
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quote:
Originally posted by X 60RSA
AFM or Idle Stepper motor.

Similar problem to mine, the AFM gave me problems only at trafic lights, car juddering etc.


It does the juddering when setting off from traffic lights sometimes but the EML has never come on when its done it. I've learnt to live with the juddering at traffic lights because AFMs are stupid money and it only lasts a few seconds but not being able to go past 4k is fucking annoying when you want to put your foot down
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dude i have exactly the same problem as this i have changed the o2 sensor for a second hand one but it could be nakard some im gonna get a new one asap.... have you sorted the problem yet??? what is it if u have?????

mwg
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Haven't sorted it out yet. Haven't needed to drive the car since Wednesday and wont need to again till next week. I'll wait till the EML starts to stay on before I do anything about it as would imagine it'll come back fine on the Tech2 if I take it in without the EML on? Either way it can wait till I have more coin.

Wheres the o2 sensor at? Is it worth giving it a quick clean?
16vOllie
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its on the cat on the down pipe...with a black covered white and black cable coming out of it with a plug which leads close to between the battery tray and the engine.... it is in side the cat an screwd in not much point in cleaning as never exposed....they about 40£ from a place down here branned new....
mwg
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Just got round to having a diagnostic done on it. Tis the o2 sensor! Got one on order so hopefully have it running all 65 of its horses by the weekend
Rob B
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Exactly the same happened with mine dude, O2 sensor
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its not the o2 sensor, as i had the same problem this time last year with my corsa. yes the tech 2 machine tells u its the o2 sensors but i can guarentee u that it wont solve ur problem.

this is gonna b a bit hard to explain but its the sensor thats inbetween ur air filter and the engine. i will try to find a pic of a 1.2 engine now and circle where the sensor is located.
mwg
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AFM (Air Flow Meter)?

I hope its not that
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the sensor is located where ive circled, i can 100% say this is your problem mate.

let me know how u get on

[Edited on 14-12-2005 by Tarrantino]
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http://corsasport.co.uk/board/viewthread.php?tid=241012

i have exact same problem but cba to fix it
mwg
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so is that the air flow meter or? I'll see what happens after the new o2 sensor has been put in.

Is it as it expensive as I think it is
dna23
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£65 on eGay
Rob B
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I dont understand how you can say that its not the o2 sensor....And automatically know what it is when its not your car... everyone just automatically thinks its the AFM etc, my car ran like this couldnt accelerate till i changed gear, same as Matt's then i changed the o2 sensor and it worked again fine, so SMB
mwg
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so I dont need to plant some dynamite in my engine bay then

I'll see what happens with the o2 sensor. might get a new afm thing next year as it tends to be quite jumpy at traffic lights etc. so if o2 sensor doesn't solve that part of it then I'll get a new afm too. For now I just want to be able to rev over 4000rpm

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