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Jenko_Sport

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30th Jun 07 at 09:47

Link!

Would i be right in thinking this filter is exactly the same as a viper but non carbon fibre?

cooki

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30th Jun 07 at 11:07

looks the same as my viper mate
id say yes

Jenko_Sport

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30th Jun 07 at 11:38

I wounder if id still get the same gains from one as the cf one.

Cant see them being any different apart from they may get slightly warmer than the cf one.

dan_c4rsa

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30th Jun 07 at 17:02

i reckon they'l be exactly the same matey. just not as flash.

Superlite Ltd.

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30th Jun 07 at 17:18

These do the same thing..

http://cgi.ebay.co.uk/ws/eBayISAPI.dll?ViewItem&ih=008&sspagename=STRK%3AMEWA%3AIT&viewitem=&item=180116623595&rd=1&rd=1

dan_c4rsa

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30th Jun 07 at 17:25

that forza looks alright actually. 4.6 at the wheels is alright eyyy!

DAZ1985

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30th Jun 07 at 17:27

4.6 at the wheels my arse

pagan_88

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30th Jun 07 at 17:32

Might be worth the gamble at that price though tbh

DAZ1985

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30th Jun 07 at 17:58

Im not disputing that the filters no good.

tbh it looks good for the money i just know that claim is bollocks

[Edited on 30-06-2007 by DAZ1985]

pagan_88

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30th Jun 07 at 18:10

Yeah, seems a tad exaggerated! Im on the lookout for a decent induction kit but cant justify spending £130 or whatever on the BMC. So looking at the next best thing like Jenko_Sport

Robin

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30th Jun 07 at 18:19

It's exactly the same, yes.

Buy a tailored one though, not a universal....

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30th Jun 07 at 19:12

quote:
Originally posted by Jenko_Sport
I wounder if id still get the same gains from one as the cf one.

Nope, it gives you more power being made of carbon fibre becaue carbon fibre is magic.

Robin

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30th Jun 07 at 19:42

There's a little truth in that though, it does have magic heat insulation properties

Jas

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30th Jun 07 at 19:58

there's no way they can make them for £40 and be as good as ones for over £200 new..

the foam etc obviously wqill be different

Jenko_Sport

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30th Jun 07 at 23:52

May give one of them Forza ones a try

What if i covered it in that carbon fibre sheet stuff from halfords, got to be another 5-10bhp from that alone

Superlite Ltd.

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1st Jul 07 at 02:43

Apiro forza are just like K&N but cheaper

matt_aka_smiler

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1st Jul 07 at 12:10

Ramair/RaidHP Maxflow i have one

Superlite Ltd.

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1st Jul 07 at 12:50

quote:
Originally posted by Jas
there's no way they can make them for £40 and be as good as ones for over £200 new..

the foam etc obviously wqill be different

brand power mate, thats all

lees_corsa

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1st Jul 07 at 15:10

the viper has carbon fibre to reflect the heat off the filter so its pure cold air goin into the engine, bmc (cda) make the best filter claims 10bhp.

DAZ1985

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1st Jul 07 at 17:25

Vipers can still suffer heat soak due to the aluminium casing which holds the carbon fibre. I used have one and to be fair i wouldnt pay £200 for one, i got mine cheap cheap though

Jas

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2nd Jul 07 at 01:17

I have had 4 differant filters on my saxo...

k+n pannel
pipercross cone
green cone
and a viper

The viper is by far the best, feels soooo much more responsive, may have something to do with the mods I have though, the noise is very minimal from the engine though

Corsa E-Tec

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2nd Jul 07 at 12:02

my piper viper was crap, fcking sucked up shit loads of water and that.

took it off and now have a K&N type filter. feels better.

topshot_2k

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2nd Jul 07 at 12:15

foam = shit

BMC or K&N

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2nd Jul 07 at 13:21

quote:
Originally posted by Jas
there's no way they can make them for £40 and be as good as ones for over £200 new..

the foam etc obviously wqill be different

The filter quality may be different. But the main issue is the whole thing surround carbon fibre. Carbon is cheap, and making a cone out of it is not very difficult either. People just seem to believe that carbon is a magical material that demands a high price tag. If the thing was made from fibreglass you wouldn't pay a lot of money for it, however theyare pretty similar materials and share a pretty similar cost in some cases. In fact, it would probably be easier to make the filter from carbon fibre as you could use a pre-preg material that would go in the mould, get vacuum packed and heated. Job done.

Filby1

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2nd Jul 07 at 13:23

Im runing a Quickshift Stainless mesh one on my 106 GTI. Sounds cool even tho its all seald up

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