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Author Looking to build a new pc
dave17
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3rd Sep 07 at 16:05   View User's Profile U2U Member Reply With Quote

After 4 years of use, my one is getting a bit ropey and now fancy updating.

Looking at a budget of around £400-500.

I havent built a PC before but know bits and bobs about the internals so reckon i would be able to work it out for myself, if not i can call on help.

I just saw this spec on the Dell website, so something similar would do the job i think.

It would mainly be used to internet browsing and my design work. But if its upto the spec id want it for gaming aswel.

PROCESSOR Intel® Viiv™ Core™ 2 Quad-Core Q6600 Processor (2.4GHz,1066MHz,8MB cache) edit
OPERATING SYSTEM Genuine Windows Vista® Home Premium - English edit
MEMORY 2048MB 667MHz Dual Channel DDR2 SDRAM [2x1024] edit
HARD DRIVE 500GB Serial ATA RAID 0 Stripe [2x250GB 7200rpm drives with DataBurst™ cache] edit
GRAPHICS CARD 256MB nVidia™ GeForce 8600GT graphics card edit

I dont need mouse, monitor keyboard etc, and will need a new case. I would also transfer my 160gb HDD from the current pc, and the DVD RW drive.

Is it worth upgrading to the Premium Vista?

I have a Radeon 9800PRO but dont think its upto much these days, so would be worth replacing that?

[Edited on 03-09-2007 by dave17]
dave17
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3rd Sep 07 at 16:09   View User's Profile U2U Member Reply With Quote

Just found this?

http://www.overclockers.co.uk/showproduct.php?prodid=FS-034-OK&groupid=43&catid=781&subcat=
Linch
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basically the same system I built for my brother, only Vista Ultimate and 8800 Ultra gpu.

Installed Vista in 7min ish.

Good system and you will love it on games
dave17
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3rd Sep 07 at 19:57   View User's Profile U2U Member Reply With Quote

How much it all cost you? Did you buy bits separately?
Olsrey
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4th Sep 07 at 00:32   View User's Profile U2U Member Reply With Quote

Try ebuyer.com

Got my parts from there and they sometimes make mistakes on prices

They listed my AM2 4600+ at £46 when it was meant to be about £100 so i snapped it up there and then the next day thought about buying new motherboard and ram
ChrisBoom
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quote:
Originally posted by Olsrey
Try ebuyer.com

Got my parts from there and they sometimes make mistakes on prices

They listed my AM2 4600+ at £46 when it was meant to be about £100 so i snapped it up there and then the next day thought about buying new motherboard and ram


Oh yes, they fuck up all the time

I blew up a PSU, my fault. They look it back, got a full refund, another refund in full, but in credit, and a replacement PSU

Ended up with £180 of credit, got my 360 for £100
Olsrey
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4th Sep 07 at 00:36   View User's Profile U2U Member Reply With Quote

Ive never had to return anything, anything major I get though a smaller better company as I get trade discount there
_Allan_
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If you have the 9800 pro vivo version then you can flash the bios to an XT.

Then you can overclock the XT.

http://www.hardwaresecrets.com/article/101

It aint a bad card.
dave17
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this is the card i have:





Cosmo
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use Froogle to find the cheapest place to buy each individual component, limit yourself to buying from around 2 places to save on shipping costs though or collect if you can.

Def go for an Intel chip, something like the E6650 or E6750 is really cheap now but an excellent chip. If you go for that then def go for a MoBo that supports the P35 chipset, no need to have DDR3 support though as this would bump up your budget by a huge amount currently.

If you want a good high spec Graphics card then go for a nVidia 8800 GTS 320MB (640MB if your budget will allow it). Not sure if this will really be within your budget though.
Olsrey
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How neat??

Ive got cables everywhere powering all sorts of crap and then Ive got my massive Zalam copper flower shaped cpu cooler
Olsrey
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quote:
Originally posted by Cosmo
use Froogle to find the cheapest place to buy each individual component, limit yourself to buying from around 2 places to save on shipping costs though or collect if you can.

Def go for an Intel chip, something like the E6650 or E6750 is really cheap now but an excellent chip. If you go for that then def go for a MoBo that supports the P35 chipset, no need to have DDR3 support though as this would bump up your budget by a huge amount currently.

If you want a good high spec Graphics card then go for a nVidia 8800 GTS 320MB (640MB if your budget will allow it). Not sure if this will really be within your budget though.


Its a nice gfx card trust me
Cosmo
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quote:
Originally posted by Olsrey
How neat??

Ive got cables everywhere powering all sorts of crap and then Ive got my massive Zalam copper flower shaped cpu cooler


get them hidden, will really improve the airflow and cooling. Its not too hard to tuck them all away either!
Olsrey
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Ive got a psu that has connectors on it so i can take cables off the psu as i can add them on to it aswell so its fairly neat and i dont have any cables that i dont need, case is full of fans aswell as both sata II hdd's were over heating
Cosmo
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quote:
Originally posted by Olsrey
Ive got a psu that has connectors on it so i can take cables off the psu as i can add them on to it aswell so its fairly neat and i dont have any cables that i dont need, case is full of fans aswell as both sata II hdd's were over heating


Modular PSU's are the future Makes it easy to hide the cables away.

Just tuck all the wires behind the mobo tray (if your case has room there), so run them flat against the sides of the case.
Olsrey
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quote:
Originally posted by Cosmo
quote:
Originally posted by Olsrey
Ive got a psu that has connectors on it so i can take cables off the psu as i can add them on to it aswell so its fairly neat and i dont have any cables that i dont need, case is full of fans aswell as both sata II hdd's were over heating


Modular PSU's are the future Makes it easy to hide the cables away.

Just tuck all the wires behind the mobo tray (if your case has room there), so run them flat against the sides of the case.


Yea i guess they are but i always run out of wires
dave17
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Whoops it got a bit expensive

Asus P5N-E SLI 650i Socket 775 PCI-E Onboard Audio ATX 125082 49 in stock £61.06 £61.06

Intel Core 2 Duo E6750 2.66GHz 1333FSB Socket 775 4MB Cache Retail Boxed Processor 130484 627 in stock £104.52 £104.52

ASUS NVIDIA GeForce 8800GTS 640MB GDDR3 DVI HDCP HDTV out PCI-E 119982 25 in stock £209.27 £209.27

Western Digital WD5000AAKS 500GB SATA II 7200RPM 16MB Cache - OEM 124228 1234 in stock £54.46 £54.46

Antec P180 Silver Aluminium Super Miditower Case - No PSU 091721 186 in stock £59.55 £59.55

Antec NEO HE430GB 430W Modular PSU With 80mm Low Speed/noise Fan 18db 099136 80 in stock £41.10 £41.10

Microsoft Windows Vista Home Premium DVD 119986 103 in stock £149.14 £149.14

Cart Total: £679.10

Shipping Charge: £13.19
Subtotal: £692.29
VAT: £121.20

Total: £813.49



dave17
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and i forgot the RAM off there aswel
Rus
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4th Sep 07 at 14:18   View User's Profile U2U Member Reply With Quote

that ati card is twice the size of mine
Olsrey
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That does seem a little pricey for what you have in my opinion. Try www.cclonline.com they have been cheaper for certain things for me in the past and are one company that wont rip you off for postage!
dave17
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4th Sep 07 at 14:33   View User's Profile U2U Member Reply With Quote

to be honest i have no real idea what im looking for
Cosmo
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could get a cheaper graphics card if you went for the 320MB version, probably about £50 cheaper atleast.

could also go for a cheaper CPU aswell.

Everything else is probably as cheap as your going to get it without getting poor performance parts. Dont forget Vista is adding £150+ onto your total though which is a huge chunk.
Olsrey
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And vista is useless apart from DirectX 10
Simon
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get an OEM processor rather than the retail version and then get something like an artic freezer pro cooling fan thing instead of the crappy fan they stick with the retail
John
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You want a p35 board with that proc.

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