Mark.W
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How many hours garage labour should i expect to pay for the valve stem oil seals doing on a x16xe?
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Crana
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loads...
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corsadonk
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It's a head off job imo. So yeah ages.
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Mark.W
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Any ideas how much? the garage i use charges £40 a hour.
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corsadonk
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They should have it on Autodate, ask them.
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AlexW
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If you only want the stem seals done, and dont want the valves lapped in etc, inc skimming that most garages will demand....
£500?
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Mark.W
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Fook me £500  iv just spent £493 last month on having the crankseals and all belts ect done.
If i get the VSOS done thats nearly 1k on a bloody engine.Might just have to put up with it.
[Edited on 01-05-2011 by Mark.W]
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Mark.W
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The car has not been used properly for about 4-5 weeks basically been getting started to move it about while i do a few things to the body work ect.
It puffs out a cloud of blue smoke on start up and when giving it some revs its blue/white smoke and have alot of condensation coming out the exhaust.
Its always kicked out a puff of blue smoke on start up but never really smoked much when been driven.
Could it be like this because its not getting a run out properly?
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johnhara1
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Pull the head off yourself and have a local engineers do it for £25.
This is what i did with my focus, although i put the head back on myself too 
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Mark.W
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Not really clued up engines so i try avoid putting a spanner to them so that idea is out the window
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johnhara1
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garage is probably going to want £500+ then.
It's a LOT of labour, head gasket kit, timing belt kit, new head bolts, possibly a skim, the list goes on and on...
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corsadonk
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quote:
Originally posted by johnhara1
garage is probably going to want £500+ then.
It's a LOT of labour, head gasket kit, timing belt kit, new head bolts, possibly a skim, the list goes on and on...
Go buy a Haynes manual, and some tools and do it yourself.
Thats how I got started, when my XE cracked a valve guide, and smashed up a piston. Now I can build a engine, and do a full conversion. Which goes pretty well like in my video.
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Mark.W
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Does it sound like VSOS from what i said it doing above? or is it piston rings?
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shaunmods
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quote:
Originally posted by Mark.W
Does it sound like VSOS from what i said it doing above? or is it piston rings?
Sounds like valve stem seals to me Mark. Mine are fooked already and I only changed them last year! Mine puffs out blue smoke on start up every now and then, and when its been allowed to idle for a while, like waiting at traffic lights etc it will sometimes puff a little bit out when I pull away.
Best taking it for a good run and see if it does it under load
[Edited on 02-05-2011 by shaunmods]
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AlexW
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If its been on start up for a while, most likely stem seals yes.
Try and get it out on a run and keep an eye on the smoke under load, if its pumping out blue then the rings will be shot.
Shaun your seals musta been rubbish ones or not fitted right!
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shaunmods
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quote:
Originally posted by AW06
Shaun your seals musta been rubbish ones or not fitted right!
Lets go with rubbish seals 
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Mark.W
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the car is in bits at the min so cant really take it out just yet sol will have to wait a bit longer to take it out.
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daine
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AW06 is right, blue smoke on start up, stem seals, blue smoke under load is rings.
how many miles she done ?
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Mark.W
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66k
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AlexW
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If the engine miles is true, Then the rings are probs fine, Although thats earlier than I would expect from the stem seals too lol
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Mark.W
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I will just have to wait until the car is back together and give a run out before i get any prices and make any decisions.
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johnhara1
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quote:
Originally posted by corsadonk
quote:
Originally posted by johnhara1
garage is probably going to want £500+ then.
It's a LOT of labour, head gasket kit, timing belt kit, new head bolts, possibly a skim, the list goes on and on...
Go buy a Haynes manual, and some tools and do it yourself.
Thats how I got started, when my XE cracked a valve guide, and smashed up a piston. Now I can build a engine, and do a full conversion. Which goes pretty well like in my video.
This is also how i got started. I do it all myself.
I had the engineering shop do the stem seals as i wanted it done on the day and a clamp at halfords was £50, but the shop that was skimming the head only wanted £25.
I did the headgasket and belts etc all by myself.
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alan-g-w
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If you start telling someone that's never held a spanner in their life to just pop down to Halfords and get all the bits needed all that's going to come out of it is about a dozen rounded bolts and a hell of a lot of head scratching.
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Mark.W
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I dont mind putting the spanner to other parts of the car its just the engine side of things,something is surely gonna go wrong and end up costing me even in the long run.
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Root
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buy a valve compressor, head gasket, head bolts and diy, save a bomb ^^,
it's simples
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