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Trotty
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2nd Nov 03 at 16:32   View User's Profile U2U Member Reply With Quote

Righty, I've got a JL 500/1 which at the moment is turned quite a way down to allow the subs to bed in a bit. Now, when it comes to cranking the amp up, whats the best recommendation?

In the past I've always followed the following sorta steps:

Reset head unit (flat EQ basically)
Turn head unit 75% up
Adjust gain on amp until subs just begin to reach distortion, then turn gain back a touch.

Would that still be the right way to go about it?

There's a decent bit of info available from JL themselves...
http://www.jlaudio.com/amps/5001.html
http://www.jlaudio.com/amps/pdfs/500_1.pdf
http://www.jlaudio.com/amps/pdfs/500_1_MAN.pdf

Just wondering if anyone else had any bright ideas...

[Edited on 02-11-2003 by Trotty]
corb
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DO A SEARCH



Diggidy put it up on here the other day you fool, and you replied about it going in FAQ's!!

And what about the RE(s)??
Trotty
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2nd Nov 03 at 16:37   View User's Profile U2U Member Reply With Quote

I read that, and I put it in the the tutorials section

I just didn't know if there was any other approachs I could take, that was all

As for the RE kit, kinda had to scale back my ideas a touch. Got too much to pay out for to go as mad as I would have liked. Still, I'm halfway to a very plesent sounding SQ-based setup, and I can't wait to get the front end sorted
Richie
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I got a mate to use a oscilliscope to match the gains on my amps....
Trotty
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2nd Nov 03 at 16:47   View User's Profile U2U Member Reply With Quote

Hmmn, I must admit I don't know many oscilliscope-owning friends

You think it's worth the effort of tracking one down though?
Richie
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2nd Nov 03 at 16:52   View User's Profile U2U Member Reply With Quote

http://www.bladeice.co.uk/gain.htm

He followed that, but obviously people with a good ear or knack for it would be able to do it without one
langey
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2nd Nov 03 at 16:54   View User's Profile U2U Member Reply With Quote

how long did you let them "bed" in?
Trotty
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It's been a week so far with quite a bit of usage (in the car for a fair amount of the day cause of work) and I'm going to leave it another week yet.
Richie
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i told you mine were left for fookin ages!
langey
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well i caned mine yesterday after putting it in, and i have so far today

think i'll turn the gains down??

but i've had the bass off on the headunit, but subwoofer at +10 out of +15

and the head unit, on 25 out of 35, turned it to 30before and it didnt evan disprot,

[Edited on 02-11-2003 by langey]
Richie
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mate if you've caned it already, you obviously havent taken my advice, and there isnt a point now as you've probably unstiffened the rubber stupidly.


You could have had a much better sounding and performing sub if you listened.
corb
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I spanked the arse of my kickers after about 3 hours, i got impatient. But my Perfects, i ran for about 40 hours before caning them!
Trotty
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2nd Nov 03 at 17:04   View User's Profile U2U Member Reply With Quote

That sounds like an Alpine h/u?

Hmmn, they might not distort yet - but it wont do the coils any good getting that much of a battering this early.

Mine is set to Sub at +6, flat EQ and no higher than 19 on the volume.
langey
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well a bet they aint evan been caind for a hour yet, coz i only made short journeys, and the gain was only half was up, just past normal.

so no point now? it dont sound fucked.

and austin i listend to all your other advice, it was great but this part, i just got imatiant and wanted to here it rock.
Richie
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Corb, do u reckon thats why you didnt get the reading u wanted?
Trotty
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This is the problem though, you've gotta get past the impatience It's worth it in the long run...
langey
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so mine is fucked?? lol

and will start to sound shit?
corb
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no, i didnt get the reading i wanted cos you REALLY have to drive these subs to get the performance from them, not give them a half-assed 600 RMS each!
langey
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2nd Nov 03 at 17:28   View User's Profile U2U Member Reply With Quote

so lads should i not bother turning my gains down?? and will my sub be fucked??
Trotty
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If they haven't been hammered too much yet then yes, turn those gains down!
langey
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well on the gain it has normal at the top (middle) and i had it set just past that, so i'll turn it down.

but i can still turn my volume up high? with the subwoofer up or have that set at 0?
Dom
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set everything to zero and turn the gains down, below normal. As trotty said, dont listen to it loud either keep it about 15/22 etc And leave it for a week or two...or 72hrs - think that is correct, its what was told to my mate.
btw corb, what sub/amp system you got going?

dom
Richie
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i had mine going for about 40 hours, 6 hours a day. Had the engine on all the time too
Dom
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quote:
Originally posted by AustinPXX
i had mine going for about 40 hours, 6 hours a day. Had the engine on all the time too

shit dude lol....must have cost ya a fair bit in fuel
langey
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lol, sop what cd did u play over and over again? and was u out in the car, or di u just leave it on?

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