20valver
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quote: Originally posted by sand-eel
quote: Originally posted by 20valver
quote: Originally posted by sand-eel
The airboxes that are usually high up is because they try to get the best most linear airflow as possible, not because they will get more pressure. If they want more pressure the best place is right at the front and as near to the place where the bumper/wing etc sticks out in front the most, this is where you get a high pressure stagnation point.
As i said it only gives a slight increase in power on big revvy engines at high speeds NOT on small engined road cars.
this why they do not have ram airbox at the front of a f1 car
The front wing accounts for approximately 33% of the total car downforce. The front wing end plates reduce drag and also direct air over the front wheels in an attempt to reduce drag. The front wing is shaped to direct air to the underside of the car and ultimately feed the undertray (described later). Shaping is also employed to allow air to cool the brakes and radiators. The front wing is a compromise between producing downforce and directing air to other areas of the car.
that doesn't explain way the airbox isn't at the front, that describes how a wing works . yes it does describe how the front wing works and for the reason airbox entrance is not put there,
I'm going to hazard a guess, the airbox is near the engine because it is nearer the engine, which means you don't have to have a pipe going from the front to the back. People have tried this though, I wonder why they didn't use it though
look below sand eel
The engine air intake is positioned behind and above the driver's head to capture high-pressure, relatively undisturbed air. Inside the air intake is an expansion chamber (diffuser) that slows the air down and thus increases its pressure ready for its passage into the engine inlet manifold. The air intake is positioned away from sources of heat, such as the track and radiators, to minimize the air temperature. The intake faces the direction of travel to take advantage of
[Edited on 13-12-2008 by 20valver]
[Edited on 13-12-2008 by 20valver]
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DAZ1985
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answer to the original question 10pages ago is one
20badger your such a knob
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sand-eel
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AAAAAAAAAH
I KNOW I KNOW, YES RAM AIR DOES EXIST I'M NOT SAYING IT DOESN'T, WHAT I'AM SAYING IS IT DOESN'T MAKE A DIFFERENCE ON SLOW SMALL ENGINED ROAD CARS, FOR THE LAST BLOODY TIME.
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20valver
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quote: Originally posted by sand-eel
AAAAAAAAAH
I KNOW I KNOW, YES RAM AIR DOES EXIST I'M NOT SAYING IT DOESN'T, WHAT I'AM SAYING IS IT DOESN'T MAKE A DIFFERENCE ON SLOW SMALL ENGINED ROAD CARS, FOR THE LAST BLOODY TIME.
every car i have done this to made a difference
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sand-eel
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quote: Originally posted by 20valver
http://www.fastcar.co.uk/04570735436556982269/pipercross-launches-f1-spec-filters.html
power gauge
That is for a road car yes, with very restrictive airboxs for fuel economy and low noise and a honda civic revs very high so it might make 13bhp yes.
I don't know why you posted that link TBH
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sand-eel
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quote: Originally posted by 20valver
quote: Originally posted by sand-eel
AAAAAAAAAH
I KNOW I KNOW, YES RAM AIR DOES EXIST I'M NOT SAYING IT DOESN'T, WHAT I'AM SAYING IS IT DOESN'T MAKE A DIFFERENCE ON SLOW SMALL ENGINED ROAD CARS, FOR THE LAST BLOODY TIME.
every car i have done this to made a difference
It's all psychological, you make something that you think makes it better so your brain will think it does work better because you want it to.
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sand-eel
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you really do need a rolling road printout, if you want to prove yourself.
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20valver
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quote: Originally posted by sand-eel
quote: Originally posted by 20valver
quote: Originally posted by sand-eel
AAAAAAAAAH
I KNOW I KNOW, YES RAM AIR DOES EXIST I'M NOT SAYING IT DOESN'T, WHAT I'AM SAYING IS IT DOESN'T MAKE A DIFFERENCE ON SLOW SMALL ENGINED ROAD CARS, FOR THE LAST BLOODY TIME.
every car i have done this to made a difference
It's all psychological, you make something that you think makes it better so your brain will think it does work better because you want it to.
before i did the mods to my 1000cc metro 45 mph on the speedo after the mods 91 mph on the speedo
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quote: Originally posted by sand-eel
quote: Originally posted by 20valver
http://www.fastcar.co.uk/04570735436556982269/pipercross-launches-f1-spec-filters.html
power gauge
That is for a road car yes, with very restrictive airboxs for fuel economy and low noise and a honda civic revs very high so it might make 13bhp yes.
I don't know why you posted that link TBH
Because he's an idiot.
20valver, we don't care about your metro or what it allegedly said on the speedo, we really don't. Just leave this thread and never come back. PLEASE. I BEG OF YOU.
[Edited on 13-12-2008 by Daveskater]
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I timed this to see how long before someone took the bait 1/2 a can of stella 20valver [hotdog] you will get me pissed or pissed off.
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sand-eel
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quote: Originally posted by 20valver
quote: Originally posted by sand-eel
quote: Originally posted by 20valver
quote: Originally posted by sand-eel
AAAAAAAAAH
I KNOW I KNOW, YES RAM AIR DOES EXIST I'M NOT SAYING IT DOESN'T, WHAT I'AM SAYING IS IT DOESN'T MAKE A DIFFERENCE ON SLOW SMALL ENGINED ROAD CARS, FOR THE LAST BLOODY TIME.
every car i have done this to made a difference
It's all psychological, you make something that you think makes it better so your brain will think it does work better because you want it to.
before i did the mods to my 1000cc metro 45 mph on the speedo after the mods 91 mph on the speedo
I don't get it
your top speed was 45 then now it is 91mph
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pmsl, it would appear so.
this boys got issues
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20valver
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instead of drilling holes in your airbox why don't you cut the bottom half of the airbox off below the air filter
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quote: Originally posted by 20valver
you do not need a huge engine and you do not need to be doing 200 mph for ram air to work, ram air works on 1000cc engine as well ie done this set up to my metro work really well
[Edited on 13-12-2008 by 20valver]
Have you tried this site?
www.metropower.co.uk
Piss off you utter fucking twat.
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20valver
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quote: Originally posted by LETGSI16V
quote: Originally posted by 20valver
you do not need a huge engine and you do not need to be doing 200 mph for ram air to work, ram air works on 1000cc engine as well ie done this set up to my metro work really well
[Edited on 13-12-2008 by 20valver]
Have you tried this site?
www.metropower.co.uk
Piss off you utter fucking twat.
i think the same about you now you need to be given a warning how do i know about giving you a warning simple because this what moderators/i have to do on my website
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sand-eel
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quote: Originally posted by sand-eel
I don't get it
your top speed was 45 then now it is 91mph
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hahahaha what a twat who cares lol
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dean101287
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Did he just say he is a moderator on a site? link to site please!
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quote: Originally posted by 20valver
so this would mean you forum members are always right and never wrong
You are a member at this forum (unfortunately) so by your logic you are always right, along with the rest of us.
How do you comment on this revelation?
Numberwang!
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20valver
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quote: Originally posted by dean101287
Did he just say he is a moderator on a site? link to site please!
http://rdcchatforum.forumcircle.com/portal.php
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barneykarl
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nice move Dave
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20valver
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quote: Originally posted by barneykarl
nice move Dave
http://astraspiclub.forumcircle.com/index.php?
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barneykarl
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I think I will stay here thank you very much.
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20valver
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quote: Originally posted by barneykarl
I think I will stay here thank you very much.
my bike forum is to advanced for you not unless you know about 2 stroke tuning and my spi forum has only been going a couple of months
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quote: Originally posted by 20valver
quote: Originally posted by barneykarl
nice move Dave
http://astraspiclub.forumcircle.com/index.php?
take it thats your website then?
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