Siberia
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it may work by doing that... dont know anyone thats tryed to be honnest.. its also going to be EXTREMELY difficult to get the nut that holds the roller on... off
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RobHayes
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i think you should try and get a set up of an early sport, or 16v sri, without power steering. otherwise it be a right fuckabout trying to get a belt that fits nice etc?
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Rob B
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Thats what OJC has told me he has done. i really cant think of another solution, im no mechanic by a long way so all this with changing engine mounts is out of the question ....
Why is it going to be extremely difficult ? Because of the fact that the alternator turns ?
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Siberia
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quote:
Originally posted by RobHayes
i think you should try and get a set up of an early sport, or 16v sri, without power steering. otherwise it be a right fuckabout trying to get a belt that fits nice etc?
this is what i'm taking about...
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Originally posted by Rob B
Thats what OJC has told me he has done. i really cant think of another solution, im no mechanic by a long way so all this with changing engine mounts is out of the question ....
Why is it going to be extremely difficult ? Because of the fact that the alternator turns ?
yes..
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Rob B
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 i hate cars oh well im sure ill work some way out of getting the Fucker off,
i heard also i can just use the belt from a 1.4 8v and it will fit fine 
[Edited on 29-11-2005 by Rob B]
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Siberia
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yeh if you can get the pulley off and the other one fits properly the 1.4 8v belt will be perfect...
trust me though ... non PAS setup will be miles easyer to do mate...
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Rob B
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Right think about i have nothing on my 1.6 16v just alternator and lower pulley no belt and no pas pump also no 1.6 tensioner i dont think, what are all the bits i need from vaux to use the 1.4 setup 
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Siberia
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Originally posted by Rob B
Right think about i have nothing on my 1.6 16v just alternator and lower pulley no belt and no pas pump also no 1.6 tensioner i dont think, what are all the bits i need from vaux to use the 1.4 setup
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Originally posted by SRi-Co
i will have the tensioner and belt assembly off mine up for grabs in the next week or so... cover my postage cost and its there
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Rob B
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i dont mind how much it costs but i need it sorted by saturday so need to order parts for it today really..
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Rob B
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just thought i had al ready bought a tensioner for a 1.4 16v without PAS or Aircon... so i still have that, but i dunno where it goes ? do i just need a bracket or something to mount the tensioner on ?
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Rileysport
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quote:
Originally posted by Rob B
just thought i had al ready bought a tensioner for a 1.4 16v without PAS or Aircon... so i still have that, but i dunno where it goes ? do i just need a bracket or something to mount the tensioner on ?
lower alternator mount from 1.4 16v without PAS or aircon, if ordering from vaux, have a squint at it on their screen first
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Rob B
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ok thanks dude cause i all ready hae the tensioner u told me tu buy so dont need another do i ?
Where does the mount for the tensioner go by the way ? where the PAS pump should be
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Siberia
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i'd have to look at my EPC which is at home....
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Rob B
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Fair enough then, im still confused
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Siberia
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the non pas system uses a tensioner instead of the PAS pump to tension the belt... i thoughr this was on the engine mount but according to mr sri-co there its on the bracket that holds the altenator to the the engine...
[Edited on 29-11-2005 by Siberia]
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Rob B
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Yeah, im going to go to vaux in a bit, ive all ready got the non PAS tensioner and non PAS belt for a 95 1.4 16v but it didnt fit so didnt think i needed it but it turns out it seems like i just need the alternator mounting bracket for it,,,... then just leave where the PAS pump used to be alone i take it...
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Ojc
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What the fcuk are you lot talking about, on my X16XE I have a 1.4 8v v-belt bottom pulley, and a 1.4 8v alternator with the v-belt pulley on, it lines up fine and runs fine.
Whats this about it not lining up? It lines up fine.
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Siberia
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quote:
Originally posted by Ojc
What the fcuk are you lot talking about, on my X16XE I have a 1.4 8v v-belt bottom pulley, and a 1.4 8v alternator with the v-belt pulley on, it lines up fine and runs fine.
Whats this about it not lining up? It lines up fine.
when i was converting from a 1.2 8v i tryed it... but i used the 1.2 8v altenator braket... this is why it didnt line up on mine...
rob also didnt know that if he used the method lee used on your car that he would have to change the altenator also...
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RobHayes
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my method was best, no tensioner at all
the alternator bracket was custom made (bodged)
i havent got it any more, it went with my old TBs so cant get any pics
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Siberia
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quote:
Originally posted by RobHayes
my method was best, no tensioner at all
the alternator bracket was custom made (bodged)
i havent got it any more, it went with my old TBs so cant get any pics
as said in the other thread... i dont the same... works a treat 
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Rob B
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Pics of said bodged bracket or is it just the bracket im buying that you can put a tensioner on
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Siberia
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something like this....
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broster
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quote:
Originally posted by Siberia
the non pas system uses a tensioner instead of the PAS pump to tension the belt... i thoughr this was on the engine mount but according to mr sri-co there its on the bracket that holds the altenator to the the engine...
[Edited on 29-11-2005 by Siberia]
the pas engines also have a tentioner.....
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Siberia
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yeah i know but the tensioner fro the non pas system is not over on the engine mount....
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broster
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the pas tentioner isnt on the engine mount eather  its attached to the block! ill get a picture of mine at about 5ish
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