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Mite have to dig out love charts in a minute 
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John
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Are they all from that site I posted?
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Ian
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Originally posted by drunkenfool
I DLd almost 300GB of HD films in a month out here in spain, for free 
How many is that? Bear in mind it costs £50 to store 300Gb. I'm not talking getting data in.
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John
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It'll be 2-4 gig mkv files probably, thats only ~15 uncompressed.
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F. Willay
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DarkBahamut
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Originally posted by Steve
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Originally posted by John
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Originally posted by Steve
i too think downloading is the future.
i downloaded a legit full hd movie on xbox live in about an hour or so. Probably quicker, and cheaper then going out and buying/renting one. Its also stored digitally so no need for space to keep dvd boxes etc.
[Edited on 23-01-2008 by Steve]
What resolution/compression method was this, hd films on disc are ~20 gig, was it divx compressed?
no, 720p quality
Low bit rate 720p and most don't even have surround sound. If xbox live is anything to go by then download is far from the future .
Unless i can download a full 1080p movie with 7.1 TrueHD sound, then downloading is not even remotely close to replacing HD-DVD/Blue-ray. And these need to be downloadable in real time, so i hope unlimited non capped 50mbit internet connections are due out soon!
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Steve
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have you watched a hd movie downloaded from live?
of course its the future, i agree to take full advantage of it connections need to be faster, but give it a few years it will get there
[Edited on 24-01-2008 by Ian]
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Russ
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in sweden where they have 100mb up/down, and with hdd's costing fuck all for 500gb now, and external strorage coming in more, people will have there movies stored on there dvd shelf on plug and play drives with 20+ movies on each.
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Paul_J
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Steve you didn't download a full HD movie in less than an hour.
it was probably just DVD quality.
HD movie = say 20 gb...
= 5 mb downloaded per second. So would need a 50 ish mb line.
Note a 5mb line will only allow 500k per sec.
at 500k per sec (5mb line) it'd take about 11 hrs to download a proper hd thing.
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Russ
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quote:
Originally posted by Paul_J
Steve you didn't download a full HD movie in less than an hour.
it was probably just DVD quality.
HD movie = say 20 gb...
= 5 mb downloaded per second. So would need a 50 ish mb line.
Note a 5mb line will only allow 500k per sec.
at 500k per sec (5mb line) it'd take about 11 hrs to download a proper hd thing.
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John
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You can get hd downloads that are a fraction of 20gig, they are just compressed more, doesn't mean they aren't hd.
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Steve
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yeah normal dvds arent 720p
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I like
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DarkBahamut
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Originally posted by Steve
yeah normal dvds arent 720p
Blu-ray isnt 720p either, so the downloads are hardly a replacement.
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Paul_J
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Originally posted by John
You can get hd downloads that are a fraction of 20gig, they are just compressed more, doesn't mean they aren't hd.
yeh ok, if you're just going on the resolution soley.
but they're not gonna look as good as the real HD dvd / blu ray would as it's compressed. So certain pixels will now merge / colours / detail will be lost etc.
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John
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Thats why I was asking steve what his hd downloads were, they are still high defenition though.
My point was although we can get hd stuff currently speeds/storage will have to greatly improve to get anything comparable to what you can get on hd-dvd/Blu-ray.
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Steve
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Originally posted by DarkBahamut
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Originally posted by Steve
yeah normal dvds arent 720p
Blu-ray isnt 720p either, so the downloads are hardly a replacement.
no, but its easy enough to provide the media in true 1080p resolution though over download.
With faster internet connections downloading is the future, imo
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Ian
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Originally posted by DarkBahamut
And these need to be downloadable in real time
Why? Music and lo-def movies didn't need real time?
Perhaps to completely usurp physical media, yes. But certainly not to gain significant market share.
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Ian
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Can I make the point that even at 1080 vertical res, they are still not equivalent to physical media unless they are undetectable to the human eye and ear. Lets be right about this, you have that res now if you murdered the bitrate and didn't mind lego brick dithers and phonebox audio.
This is not just about screen res.
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