Andrew
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I'm currently building a new server as i'm bored with the Dell T410 i have. So far i've bought a case and ran out of money 
Dell T410 - £1200
Mac Mini - £550
Laptop - £700
iPad - £550
What do you mean you are bored with it and why have you bought a case for a server, you'd just go and buy another poweredge if you hadn't just made it up.
What extra features do you require for your bedroom exchange server that the T410 doesn't currently have?
What I was thinking but cba to type!
Problem with the PowerEdge is the amount of noise it generates, i don't want another, plus i will get more for my money. Idea around building something is i have full control over noise, what RAID card installed along with disk config and i'm stuggling on disk space at the moment. Another server over NAS will also allow use of ESXi when i decide to work on becoming certified.
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N3CRO
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£1,100 for just the tower and everything in it, incl monitor, keyboard etc, probably around £1,250-300. Custom built by me. 7 years ago. Want a new one but can't afford it 
[Edited on 08-11-2011 by TheNobleOne]
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VrsTurbo
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this:
Dell xps17
210-37713 XPS 702x : 2nd generation Intel Core i7-2670QM processor 2.20 GHz with Turbo Boost up
to 3.10 GHz
230-12055 Display : 17.3in Full HD WLED AG (1920x1080) with 2.0 Mega Pixel Integrated Camera
320-11589 LCD Back Cover : Silver Anodized Aluminum WLAN Cover
370-20115 Memory : 6GB (1X4GB + 1X2GB) 1333MHz DDR3 Dual Channel
400-21857 Hard Drive : 1TB (2x500GB) Serial ATA (7200RPM) Dual HDD
429-15751 Optical Drive : 8X DVD+/-RW Drive including software
451-11543 Battery : Primary 9-cell 90W/HR LI-ION
460-11379 Carry Case : Not Included
490-12666 Graphics : 3GB NVIDIA GeForce GT 555M Graphics Card
583-14529 Keyboard : Internal Backlit UK/Irish Qwerty Keyboard
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VrsTurbo
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Originally posted by Andrew
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Originally posted by pow
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Originally posted by John
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Originally posted by Andrew
I'm currently building a new server as i'm bored with the Dell T410 i have. So far i've bought a case and ran out of money
Dell T410 - £1200
Mac Mini - £550
Laptop - £700
iPad - £550
What do you mean you are bored with it and why have you bought a case for a server, you'd just go and buy another poweredge if you hadn't just made it up.
What extra features do you require for your bedroom exchange server that the T410 doesn't currently have?
What I was thinking but cba to type!
Problem with the PowerEdge is the amount of noise it generates, i don't want another, plus i will get more for my money. Idea around building something is i have full control over noise, what RAID card installed along with disk config and i'm stuggling on disk space at the moment. Another server over NAS will also allow use of ESXi when i decide to work on becoming certified.
If you think your gonna get certified using a single server you are mistaken. you need at least 2 and a SAN to utilise it fully and there isnt a chance in hell you'll pass it if you have no real world experiance or a crash course! but you said i think in a post many years ago you were gonna do it....
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Robbo
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this is the guy who claims to be IT support and yet cant do the literal msot simplest of things remember...
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Sam
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Andrew - if it's noisy why can't you just replace the things that are noisy?
Isn't it a bit like saying "my exhaust has a hole in it so I'm going to buy a brand new car"? 
I am assuming you are referring to hard drives and fans when you speak of noise?
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John
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You've got control over all of they bits with a poweredge.
You don't need a server for esx anyway, it'll run on most stuff and as vrsturbo says you don't find out how anything works until its out at a clients and something doesn't work.
This is all irrelevant though because none of it will be happening.
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pow
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I had for a while a Dual Core Atom box running 2008R2, handled most things quite nicely. Was silent.
Core edition, the way forward. Command line is the future. cmd and powershell.exer
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John
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In response to the original question.
Most laptops I get for people are around the £400-500 quid mark, not many desktops but latest one was £1000 fro tower, monitor, printer etc.
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Andrew
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Originally posted by VrsTurbo
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Originally posted by Andrew
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Originally posted by pow
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Originally posted by John
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Originally posted by Andrew
I'm currently building a new server as i'm bored with the Dell T410 i have. So far i've bought a case and ran out of money
Dell T410 - £1200
Mac Mini - £550
Laptop - £700
iPad - £550
What do you mean you are bored with it and why have you bought a case for a server, you'd just go and buy another poweredge if you hadn't just made it up.
What extra features do you require for your bedroom exchange server that the T410 doesn't currently have?
What I was thinking but cba to type!
Problem with the PowerEdge is the amount of noise it generates, i don't want another, plus i will get more for my money. Idea around building something is i have full control over noise, what RAID card installed along with disk config and i'm stuggling on disk space at the moment. Another server over NAS will also allow use of ESXi when i decide to work on becoming certified.
If you think your gonna get certified using a single server you are mistaken. you need at least 2 and a SAN to utilise it fully and there isnt a chance in hell you'll pass it if you have no real world experiance or a crash course! but you said i think in a post many years ago you were gonna do it....
You have to take one of the courses in which to become certified. I already have a T410 i can utilise as well. I'm nopt sat here stating i know all about VMware, i'm actully going to learn as i go along.
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pow
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pow
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My next laptop may or may not be a Macbook air with Windows 7 on it, we'll see how long the Alienware lasts
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Daniel_Corsa
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_Allan_
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Last 3 PC's I've built have all been around the £1200 mark. Usually try and sell off the old one after a couple of years for a few hundred quid. Get what I can before it's totally worthless then build a new one from whatever the cheapsest sites are. Even if it's spread out. I think the last one came mainly from Ebuyer and Overclockers with a hint of Amazon and Scan etc....
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kz
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My Dell PC was £500 iirc, 2 years ago. I bought a Samsung monitor separately, as well as a Microsoft keyboard and mouse... total around £650 I guess.
I also bought a Samsung laptop earlier in the year for £275.
The missus spent £420 on her Dell laptop, and £200 on a second hand Mac.
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luciaadr
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I wouldn't have thought that there'd be any money in building machines once you've factored in the time cost of putting them together.
Also, I wouldnt compete with the big boys on price, thats their main strength and you're unlikely to be able to beat it. As a smaller retailer would it not be better to offer a no-nonsense warranty and frieundly accesible support that people are willing to pay more for. This is where the margins are. Just a thought anyway.
As for my machine, probably £350, all secondhand parts (except for HDDs)
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VrsTurbo
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quote:
Originally posted by Andrew
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Originally posted by VrsTurbo
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Originally posted by Andrew
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Originally posted by pow
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Originally posted by John
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Originally posted by Andrew
I'm currently building a new server as i'm bored with the Dell T410 i have. So far i've bought a case and ran out of money
Dell T410 - £1200
Mac Mini - £550
Laptop - £700
iPad - £550
What do you mean you are bored with it and why have you bought a case for a server, you'd just go and buy another poweredge if you hadn't just made it up.
What extra features do you require for your bedroom exchange server that the T410 doesn't currently have?
What I was thinking but cba to type!
Problem with the PowerEdge is the amount of noise it generates, i don't want another, plus i will get more for my money. Idea around building something is i have full control over noise, what RAID card installed along with disk config and i'm stuggling on disk space at the moment. Another server over NAS will also allow use of ESXi when i decide to work on becoming certified.
If you think your gonna get certified using a single server you are mistaken. you need at least 2 and a SAN to utilise it fully and there isnt a chance in hell you'll pass it if you have no real world experiance or a crash course! but you said i think in a post many years ago you were gonna do it....
You have to take one of the courses in which to become certified. I already have a T410 i can utilise as well. I'm nopt sat here stating i know all about VMware, i'm actully going to learn as i go along.
yes the course to become certified is a classroom course you cant just take an exam.. you can take smaller exams for $100 which arnt really worth it.
plus your best bet would be to have two machines of same spec.
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James
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What do folk do to warrant a mini server farm in their house? 
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John
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What's more appealing to all the girls he brings home than a load of noisy servers.
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Sam
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Originally posted by luciaadr
I wouldn't have thought that there'd be any money in building machines once you've factored in the time cost of putting them together.
Also, I wouldnt compete with the big boys on price, thats their main strength and you're unlikely to be able to beat it. As a smaller retailer would it not be better to offer a no-nonsense warranty and frieundly accesible support that people are willing to pay more for. This is where the margins are. Just a thought anyway.
As for my machine, probably £350, all secondhand parts (except for HDDs)
I'd still make a profit TBH, but yeah the main part of my business is service (maintenance etc.) and hence what pays for the food on the table. Selling computers and accessories will just be an extra service. 
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willay
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What's more appealing to all the girls he brings home than a load of noisy servers.
fuck off john, nothing wrong with having a bunch of desktop pcs (or even server grade!) sitting under your desk burrrrrring away keeping you up at night. Go slow cook something you dork.
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willay
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Anywhere between £1000 and £1500 on my last build. That includes monitors, the biggest shame is I run Ubuntu on it so I haven't even given it a shot at some fancy game.
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John
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Originally posted by John
What's more appealing to all the girls he brings home than a load of noisy servers.
fuck off john, nothing wrong with having a bunch of desktop pcs (or even server grade!) sitting under your desk burrrrrring away keeping you up at night. Go slow cook something you dork.
I've got loads, they don't keep me up at night though and I know half of what I'm talking about.
One of them is specifically for running ubuntu and stealing the neighbours wifi.
[Edited on 09-11-2011 by John]
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Robbo
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Originally posted by John
What's more appealing to all the girls he brings home than a load of noisy servers.
drowns out the sound of them having a shit i suppose
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willay
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quote:
Originally posted by John
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Originally posted by willay
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Originally posted by John
What's more appealing to all the girls he brings home than a load of noisy servers.
fuck off john, nothing wrong with having a bunch of desktop pcs (or even server grade!) sitting under your desk burrrrrring away keeping you up at night. Go slow cook something you dork.
I've got loads, they don't keep me up at night though and I know half of what I'm talking about.
One of them is specifically for running ubuntu and stealing the neighbours wifi.
[Edited on 09-11-2011 by John]
Everyone has to start somewhere John, don't be part of the problem. Why do you need Ubuntu to steal your neighbours wifi?
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