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Gary
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31st Jul 12 at 21:44   View Garage View User's Profile U2U Member Reply With Quote

And that weird socket was normal mid 1900's
Root
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True and oh yeah, lols, just find yourself an extension cord, cut the modern plug off, strip back the 2.5mm flex, wire into antique roadshow plug!
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31st Jul 12 at 21:48   View Garage View User's Profile U2U Member Reply With Quote

Easiest way. Plus cos your not altering the actual wiring your not doing anything wrong
Root
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Good job you have common sense 'cus I missed the obvious lol
John
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You missed the obvious yet you are advising him to work on live electrics?
Scotty_B
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Spoke to a spark last night who said the leccy is hopeless as it steps down from the main box at the end. Basically the best I can get is a 60w bulb.
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Originally posted by Scotty_B
Spoke to a spark last night who said the leccy is hopeless as it steps down from the main box at the end. Basically the best I can get is a 60w bulb.


oh and the garages were built in 1959.
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What do you want to run, 60w is fine for a radio, not for power tools. Would charge a drill battery though.
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What do you want to run, 60w is fine for a radio, not for power tools. Would charge a drill battery though.


It's a rough usage bulb running at 24v.

Was wanting to run a Dyson for the car.
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1st Aug 12 at 21:38   View Garage View User's Profile U2U Member Reply With Quote

That socket is a 5amp lighting socket isn't it? Could plug a radio into that problem...
Gary
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Its an old style socket powowow. Look same though.

With the breaker being 15a id have thought the wiring would take more than just a light
Root
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quote:
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You missed the obvious yet you are advising him to work on live electrics?

Which isn't dangerous at all, if you work safely
Dom
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The round pin plug (BS546) isn't widely used for domestic appliances, although it's still pretty common on stage lighting (how i know about them). The plugs have a number of ratings, typically 5/15/30A, so i'd check to see what the plug you have is rated at (i suspect 15A if the fuse at the box is 15A) before you use it; although i'd personally replace it anyway.

Worth checking with a multimeter to see if the power supply to the unit is 24v; seems rather odd to be using 250v wiring/fuses.
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Don't listen to anything root has 'advised' you'll end up with a more dangerous installation than you may already have.

You can't protect a 2.5mm radial circuit with a 32a MCB as 2.5mm cable has a maximum current carrying capacity of around 26a

The cable in your fuse box looks to be rubber insulated and sheathed with a fabric braiding which needs replaced. Personally I'd be calling a local spark to advise you further. Won't cost anything for someone to pop out and give you a quote.

How is it currently metered?
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Would just need an earth.


It will already be earthed through the continuity of the steel conduit
Root
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quote:
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Don't listen to anything root has 'advised' you'll end up with a more dangerous installation than you may already have.

You can't protect a 2.5mm radial circuit with a 32a MCB as 2.5mm cable has a maximum current carrying capacity of around 26a

The cable in your fuse box looks to be rubber insulated and sheathed with a fabric braiding which needs replaced. Personally I'd be calling a local spark to advise you further. Won't cost anything for someone to pop out and give you a quote.

How is it currently metered?

lol, forgot to mention to make it a ring circuit by taking wiring back to the breakers, instead of radial. My bad, I should stop posting
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Just about to buy this:

http://www.ebay.co.uk/itm/130533938269#ht_4239wt_1052

I assume that if the bulb is 24v 60w then this should run fine from the socket.

John
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Are you sure it's 24v and not 240v?
Scotty_B
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The bulb is definately a 60w 24v rough usage.
John
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The pictures you've posted show 250v wiring in the garage, I'm not sure why this would be converted to 24v bulbs at any point.

Has whoever you've been speaking to said it's a 240v 60w bulb, and you've misread/heard it to be 24v?
Scotty_B
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24v is printed on the bulb. I changed it several times with rough usage bulbs of the same voltage/wattage.

Apparently the feed is stepped down from 240v at the control box at the end off the lockups.
Gary
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15th Aug 12 at 15:48   View Garage View User's Profile U2U Member Reply With Quote

Stick your finger in the socket. If it hurts its 230, if it doesn't then its 24
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Thought about that and decided against it.
Gary
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lol. Just get a spark in.
John
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Stick a multimeter on it would be by far the easiest option.

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