John
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It's not as limited as ios, it's running on a different architecture, which is good in some ways and bad in others. The main bad part is that the majority of people don't have a clue how or why it's different. Massive mistake from Microsoft.
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Rob_Quads
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It's not as limited as ios,
How is it different? You download apps from the Windows Store, To write apps you need to submit them to the Windows store to be approved i.e. only what they let through you can install?
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Steve
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the OS itself wont be as limited
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Rob_Quads
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ah gotcha. Will be interesting to see what they do and don't let you do
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LeeM
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quote:
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the OS itself wont be as limited
why not?
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John
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Because it's not massively locked down by apple.
There will be an easy way to install other apps.
They've still ballsed it up though.
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LeeM
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Because it's not massively locked down by apple.
There will be an easy way to install other apps.
They've still ballsed it up though.
it will just be locked down by microsoft, in exactly the same way.
you'll have to jailbreak, exactly like with iOS.
it is a ballsup though, people will buy them thinking its like a laptop then find out its not because they bought the cheap one
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John
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A lot of people won't notice the difference anyway.
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LeeM
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they will when they try and download something but cant do it
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Bart
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they will when they try and download something but cant do it
Particularly when they realise their legit £150 copy of Microsoft Office Pro wont install and they'll need to buy another.
It'll be interesting to see how well priced the apps will be for the surface.
IMO, if they want to charge £150 for office pro for the tablet they'll be pricing themselves way out of market and google will be in like a rat up a drain pipe with free apps.
If the price is as ridiculously low (as it should be for the masses to adopt and not want to use the free apps), they'll have some bad price mis-matching between surface and the PC.
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John
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They don't want to charge £150 for office pro for tablet, they want you to pay monthly for office 365 and install it on your tablet and your dekstop PC.
What you get with what version of 365 is also more complicated than it has to be.
It's like they think up a good idea then someone else comes along and decides to make it as awkward as possible.
[Edited on 25-10-2012 by John]
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Bart
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They don't want to charge £150 for office pro for tablet, they want you to pay monthly for office 365 and install it on your tablet and your dekstop PC.
fcuking monthly description to use a spreadsheet 
they can deffo have a slice of go to hell for that.
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John
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It's actually not a bad idea, especially for businesses, you get hosted exchange as well as always having the most up to date version of office.
Business ones also include sharepoint and skydrive pro. Will replace SBS and paying hundreds of pounds for office for a large number of small businesses. It's actually right on the money if they can manage to to fuck it up.
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Bart
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sounds great, but we run many custom apps / services along side our sharepoint site, so cant imagine they'd accomodate that.
Also, despite best efforts, our MDs all like the idea of having a ~12gb exchange account (+ auto archiving!), every cloud solution ive looked which includes that sort of storage for a single mailbox is either not available or REALLY silly money 
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John
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Office 365 might do it.
People using applications that need a server won't be getting rid of the onsite one anytime soon. A lot of offices just have office and files, prefect for them.
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Bart
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I'm still really on the fence with this. Might have to try a VM for a while first.
Has anyone got dual screens setup?
I like to have lots of apps running at once, multitasking and dragging/dropping between apps, I can't help but think it'll be more difficult in this new version?
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evilrob
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£24.99 download from Microsoft til 31st January 2013:
http://windows.microsoft.com/en-GB/windows/buy?ocid=GA8_O_WOL_DIS_NewLook_FPP_Null
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Jambo
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Tempting at £25.
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Jambo
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But then I'm totally happy with Windows 7
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evilrob
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It boots much faster than Win 7, and generally feels snappier. I'm glad that Aero is gone as well - no more stupid translucent windows wasting memory and CPU cycles - everything looks clean and sharp.
The new interface formally known as "Metro" with all the big gay tiles instead of the Start Menu takes some getting used to and the UI is generally disjointed, but on the whole I reckon it's the least worst Windows yet.
Just be aware that for the first few days you won't have a clue where any of your shit is, but I think it's a step in the right direction.
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John
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All of the normal stuff is behind the new UI anyway, if you hot windows key then type what you're looking for it'll probably come up.
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pow
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I've been doing that since Vista, my biggest problem was the location of the shutdown button
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pow
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Will buy a copy for £25 I think 
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ed
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Will have to wait until I can get it - my Windows computer is for work and we have to support software which wont run on it. Really interested to have a look though, tried to get a beta running on a VM on my Mac but all I got was a picture of a fish blowing bubbles 
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John
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I got an email from parallels during the week saying not to upgrade so it can't be working properly on that.
Had to update esxi to 5.1 to get it to work as well, not sure what's different that causes it, probably something to do with uefi.
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