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FlaFFy_91

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23rd May 13 at 08:44

quote:
Originally posted by eckers90
the afm is ok on an xe for some reason, but not a let.
coolant temp sensor is defo a possibility.
just check the basics, air leaks, earths, all the plugs are connected, the fpr is connected right way, the timing marks, and fresh spark plugs obviously?

CTS is a possibility, check the timeing aswell... did you renew all the sensors?
the afm sounds like a possibility too

Generation

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23rd May 13 at 09:56

Didn't change all the sensors, Steve come round and did the timing, I can post pics, but as they're verniers I can't see any markings on them

Plugs are brand new too

[Edited on 23-05-2013 by Generation]

Generation

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23rd May 13 at 10:29

Still have no ecu light..

csifku

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23rd May 13 at 10:37

check MAP sensor (i did read but nobody said anything bout it)
it cut off if is discconected too .

Generation

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23rd May 13 at 10:41

Wasn't even aware there was a map sensor, only the one in the ecu ?

Can't see anything unplugged?

Apart from
Hot start valve

[Edited on 23-05-2013 by Generation]

csifku

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23rd May 13 at 10:50

quote:
Originally posted by Generation
Wasn't even aware there was a map sensor, only the one in the ecu ?

Can't see anything unplugged?

Apart from
Hot start valve

[Edited on 23-05-2013 by Generation]

sorry mate, i thought ur one got MAP sensor .. if ur car got power so ecu is working, why u dont try to find and connect OBD reader to it and have a look whats going on ... maybe silly idea but worked for me, when u said ur engine cut off, seriously it sounds like sensor, AFM, MAF or MAP or a vacuum pipe or somewhere goin air cos of no good insolation or something. im tryin to help

csifku

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23rd May 13 at 10:52

this one at the right is MAP for c20let

i dont know where is located but if the hose from inlet manifold dont go in, it can cut off

Generation

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23rd May 13 at 11:01

that's one from after market management mate.

[Edited on 23-05-2013 by Generation]

csifku

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23rd May 13 at 11:17

quote:
Originally posted by Generation
that's one from after market management mate.

[Edited on 23-05-2013 by Generation]

i have checked for u online about similar problem to urs and people say that maybe fuel pump or fuel pump relay could do problem, i should check if is any electric goin to ur fuel pump or could be bad earth on fuel rail..

Generation

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23rd May 13 at 11:32

So now it's not the map you were talking about a second ago?

csifku

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23rd May 13 at 11:46

quote:
Originally posted by Generation
So now it's not the map you were talking about a second ago?

what im tryin to say mate is i have look around in internet about c20let cut off and this is some of the reasons other people couldnt start their c20let's and i just decide to post them in here so u might think of idea why ur one dont start

i hope u understand

Generation

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23rd May 13 at 12:04

Plugs 1+4 are soaked

2+3 are clean

FlaFFy_91

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23rd May 13 at 12:12

soaked with what?
petrol, oil, coolant, piss?

Generation

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23rd May 13 at 12:14

Well fuel I assume, was abit black too.

Does this timing look out, bearing in mind it's a let and timing is usually retarded?

eckers90

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23rd May 13 at 12:15

Clearly petrol. Sounds very stupid. But try swapping 1 and 4 ht leads at the dizzy. Also check crank sensor

eckers90

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23rd May 13 at 12:16

The exhaust is set standard. That's what the dizzy runs off. So should be okay

Generation

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23rd May 13 at 12:16

Will try leads
Now what will this do? What should I check for after doing this?

All help
Much appreciate guys

[Edited on 23-05-2013 by Generation]

Generation

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23rd May 13 at 12:38

Generation

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23rd May 13 at 13:20

New dizzy cap bought, contacts look fuxked!

FlaFFy_91

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23rd May 13 at 13:58

quote:
Originally posted by eckers90
Clearly petrol. Sounds very stupid. But try swapping 1 and 4 ht leads at the dizzy. Also check crank sensor

why is it clearly petrol? could of just as easily been coolant or oil couldn't it

however with the points on the dizzy being fucked them yes it sounds like petrol on them as it probably wont of been firing on them 2 cylinders
hope it fix's it for you mate

eckers90

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23rd May 13 at 14:10

yupp, problem solved there matey, get a new one on there (Y)
any mr fluffy or whatever your name is, if a car struggles to start and you pull the plugs out and there wet, if its anything but fuel then i would eat my own hat, theres nothing that gets sprayed into a bore except fuel!!!!

Generation

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23rd May 13 at 14:10

Really do hope so. It's definatly a possibility, but for £20 it needs changing anyway

gazza808

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23rd May 13 at 15:12

quote:
Originally posted by eckers90
yupp, problem solved there matey, get a new one on there (Y)
any mr fluffy or whatever your name is, if a car struggles to start and you pull the plugs out and there wet, if its anything but fuel then i would eat my own hat, theres nothing that gets sprayed into a bore except fuel!!!!

Fucked head gasket, cracked head or block could mean coolant or oil could get in there,

So you not entirely right. But not far wrong.

eckers90

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23rd May 13 at 15:32

not on just turning it over, no way, not unless there was no fucking piston rings in there, or no head gasket!

Generation

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23rd May 13 at 15:56

Can we not turn this into an argument please.

Just going to
Clutter the thread and make it harder to determine what's been done