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AndyKent

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18th Mar 14 at 18:43

Building on the angle is both weird and more difficult to build to be fair

Fee

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19th Mar 14 at 17:22

It took about 8 months for our plans to be finally approved for the double garage in the last place, all because some idiot neighbour (who lived on the street behind, so her garage backed on to the lane from the other side) complained and was friendly with one of the counsellors

She had about 6 different complaints, including that it was....

(1) too big - it wasn't the biggest garage in the lane
(2) not in keeping with the lane - all garages in the lane are completely different
(3) we were going to run a business from it, apparently we lease cars!

In the end we had about 20 counsellors visit the site to run through each complaint. All but one of them (the friend of the neighbour) moaned about what a waste of time it was and shortly afterwards the plans were approved

Fucking nightmare!

Stu_22

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2nd Apr 14 at 16:55

Went to comitee today and it was rejected so frustrating all the complaints were biased on me running a business and that's not planning issue. How do I prove that I'm not running a business

Rob_Quads

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2nd Apr 14 at 18:37

Did the council give the grounds the rejection was made so you could amend your application accordingly?

Stu_22

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2nd Apr 14 at 20:30

Over development. I can't change it, plus it had the support of the councils planning department
The neighbours joined forces with a councillor not on the committee. The picture of the site was with a sport and a mk3 supra on stands but they weren't convinced that it would be an improvement to hide them in a garage. So frustrating as I want to build it right next door to an existing double garage but they are on a separate site

Stu_22

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5th Jun 14 at 09:45

Appeal now in so a couple more months waiting for that decision

JM_16v

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8th Jun 14 at 10:31

quote:
Originally posted by Marc
We sell buildings ranging from 7.2m² upwards and all come with electrics. We advise people anything under 35m² is except from BR.

[Edited on 24-02-2014 by Marc]

does that work with extensions or is that due to a garage not being a habitable space.

AndyKent

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8th Jun 14 at 19:37

Habitable spaces need to comply

baza31

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9th Jun 14 at 13:27

I would leave a load of half cut up cars on the land and make it an eyesore . Council lots and council planning are usually a set of cunts .

Stu_22

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8th Dec 14 at 16:11

Finally got permission after the appeal came through. Although I still have the condition thats states pile drive foundations used to protect tree roots. Foundation plans must be submitted before I do anything else

DaveyLC

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9th Dec 14 at 08:46

quote:
Originally posted by Stu_22
Had a visit from the tree guy and he said we will need pile driven foundations as we are close to a big sycamore tree. Sounds expensive

It can actually be cheaper as less aggregate is required..

I've just used pile foundations to build a 25m² shed/summerhouse, granted I didn't have to hire the drill and you'll probably need to go deeper but you can offset it against the extra loads of concrete required.. But again, I suppose that depends how deep you want to go with the floor?

Personally if I was being forced down the deep pile foundation route I'd find a source for some cheap filler material for the floor (road-chippings or some old hard-core?) so I don't have to go crazy with the concrete.

DaveyLC

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9th Dec 14 at 08:49

quote:
Originally posted by JM_16v

quote:
Originally posted by Marc
We sell buildings ranging from 7.2m² upwards and all come with electrics. We advise people anything under 35m² is except from BR.

[Edited on 24-02-2014 by Marc]

does that work with extensions or is that due to a garage not being a habitable space.

I'm pretty sure there are some areas that are not so strict when it comes to 'temporary structures' which most timber or pre-fab buildings would come under

Stu_22

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9th Dec 14 at 10:36

quote:
Originally posted by DaveyLC

quote:
Originally posted by Stu_22
Had a visit from the tree guy and he said we will need pile driven foundations as we are close to a big sycamore tree. Sounds expensive

It can actually be cheaper as less aggregate is required..

I've just used pile foundations to build a 25m² shed/summerhouse, granted I didn't have to hire the drill and you'll probably need to go deeper but you can offset it against the extra loads of concrete required.. But again, I suppose that depends how deep you want to go with the floor?

Personally if I was being forced down the deep pile foundation route I'd find a source for some cheap filler material for the floor (road-chippings or some old hard-core?) so I don't have to go crazy with the concrete.

Floor has to be suspended again to protect tree roots. So that's going to have to be some beefy concrete beams.

I understand the cost off piles might be offset by not having soil removal cost but its the cost of getting people in to work it all out

Rob_Quads

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9th Dec 14 at 12:19

quote:
Originally posted by DaveyLC

quote:
Originally posted by JM_16v

quote:
Originally posted by Marc
We sell buildings ranging from 7.2m² upwards and all come with electrics. We advise people anything under 35m² is except from BR.

[Edited on 24-02-2014 by Marc]

does that work with extensions or is that due to a garage not being a habitable space.

I'm pretty sure there are some areas that are not so strict when it comes to 'temporary structures' which most timber or pre-fab buildings would come under

There isn't any building regs at all for the temp structures is there. Essentially you can do what you like

Like me through you know if your spending the money on it, you want to make sure its done right still

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9th Dec 14 at 12:36

quote:
Originally posted by Stu_22

quote:
Originally posted by DaveyLC

quote:
Originally posted by Stu_22
Had a visit from the tree guy and he said we will need pile driven foundations as we are close to a big sycamore tree. Sounds expensive

It can actually be cheaper as less aggregate is required..

I've just used pile foundations to build a 25m² shed/summerhouse, granted I didn't have to hire the drill and you'll probably need to go deeper but you can offset it against the extra loads of concrete required.. But again, I suppose that depends how deep you want to go with the floor?

Personally if I was being forced down the deep pile foundation route I'd find a source for some cheap filler material for the floor (road-chippings or some old hard-core?) so I don't have to go crazy with the concrete.

Floor has to be suspended again to protect tree roots. So that's going to have to be some beefy concrete beams.

I understand the cost off piles might be offset by not having soil removal cost but its the cost of getting people in to work it all out

We've just had foundations and flooring built like that. They put piles in and have used beams and blocks for the flooring:

They managed to do the work pretty damn quickly!

Stu_22

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9th Dec 14 at 13:36

Any links to the piling company ed?

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9th Dec 14 at 15:17

I'll try and find out for you

Stu_22

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23rd Dec 14 at 18:15

Got a few quotes in for design of foundations and suspended floor
£750 - £1050 + vat
Do these structural engineers earn there money seems a lot for a few drawings and calculations

3CorsaMeal

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24th Dec 14 at 11:00

Have you looked into a raft foundation?

How close is the tree?

Our structural engineer charges £90 an hour

Although his younger employees work only charges at £35-50 an hour.

Stu_22

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24th Dec 14 at 16:23

This is the condition set in the planning permision

No development shall take place until full details of special foundations have been submitted to and approved in writing by the Local Planning Authority. The details shall have been prepared by a suitably qualified engineer and should clearly demonstrate that the rooting-medium and rooting-system of all off-site trees will be protected from damage or root asphyxiation. The construction of special foundations shall consist of a pile and beam configuration, using the smallest diameter piles possible, and with the beams suspended over the existing soil surface. The development shall be constructed strictly in accordance with the approved details.

The tree is in the corner of the plot and garage and it about 1.5m from the walls

Stu_22

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2nd Jul 15 at 08:45

Finally got my structural engineer drawings done after he dragged his feet

Have piles being done 8m deep

Next question is there anyway to get round the VAT

VrsTurbo

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2nd Jul 15 at 14:21

Pay cash

Stu_22

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20th Jul 15 at 19:13

Piling almost done but pile No. 7 went through the a water main. Luckily we were able to quickly turn the water off and carry on while a plumber was called.

Once all the holes were done we started to dig down to expose the water main. After a spark and a flash we quickly realised we had clipped an extricate cable running just a few cm's away from the water main.
Soon after this happened and the cable was arcing every few minutes with a leaking water pipe right next door the concrete lorry arrived.
Luckily our contractions carried on a did all but the one pile.

We phoned up electricity emergency number around 16

0 explained what we had done but we are still waiting

Stu_22

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20th Jul 15 at 19:38

Just had a visit from some guy from UK power networks just to confirm it was a damaged electrical cable. Not sure what else could look like a wire in the ground and flash/bang

Dee25790

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20th Jul 15 at 21:44