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Author fitting a bigger throttle body and inlet manifold .
20valver
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they use fluid dynamics ie air flow over the car and under the car in f1 they also know they need a non turbulent positive pressure going into the airbox entrance the hole you see above the drivers head this is the ram air effect
20valver
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quote:
Originally posted by bieransri
may i ask why?

edit: i was gonna anyway

[Edited on 04-12-2008 by bieransri]


may i ask why what are you on about
20valver
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quote:
Originally posted by Ellis
quote:
Originally posted by 20valver
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Originally posted by Ellis
Do you have idea about fluid dynamics for a start?


yup, you need to know this when tuning in any form, fluid dynamics starts at the front of the car and finishes at the rear of the car
No you don't...

So from your expierence what pressures are you getting inside an airbox on your fuckin mad spi badboy?

trade secret
luke85
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Total waste of time, First of all the only sensor that will let the ECU know that more air is going in than normal is the lambda sensor and when its in closed loop mode this automatically adjusts the fuelling as you drive regardless of if you have disconnected the battery

But when your at full throttle the lambda is ignored anyway so even if the ECU was designed to learn after some numpty disconnected the battery, it would have no idea that more air than normal is going in. It will just run from its pre programed open loop map
Ryan
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20 valver you have been evicted

please leave the..............
mad_mike252
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ok u wot a 1.6cam 1.6inlet manifold 1.6 injector and a 1.8throttle body 1.4 ecu is all good 2 use
i did this set up on my 1.4

[Edited on 04-12-2008 by mad_mike252]
evans_corsab
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cool its getting done over christmas , may run carbs but i dont think i could fuel it with it being my daily car .
Hamish
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quote:
Originally posted by RYAN89
20 valver you have been evicted

please leave the..............

earth?
Ellis
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Love it; pressure in a airbox is a 'trade secret'
ShEp
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What hapens when his shitty filler crack and his mad spi sooks it all in?
Sean-B
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quote:
Originally posted by ShEp
What hapens when his shitty filler crack and his mad spi sooks it all in?


will just whip battery out for a night and reset ECU to run on petrol / filler mix.
Ryan
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black hole effect, end of the world.....
evans_corsab
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LMAO
20valver
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quote:
Originally posted by luke85
Total waste of time, First of all the only sensor that will let the ECU know that more air is going in than normal is the lambda sensor and when its in closed loop mode this automatically adjusts the fuelling as you drive regardless of if you have disconnected the battery

But when your at full throttle the lambda is ignored anyway so even if the ECU was designed to learn after some numpty disconnected the battery, it would have no idea that more air than normal is going in. It will just run from its pre programed open loop map


0 - 73 percent throttle is closed loop running then 73 percent to wot is open loop, engine tuners tune in open loop running mode, the ecu takes information from the map sensor as well

[Edited on 06-12-2008 by 20valver]
20valver
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quote:
Originally posted by ShEp
What hapens when his shitty filler crack and his mad spi sooks it all in?


question why would the the fibre glass and filler crack
Ellis
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quote:
Originally posted by 20valver
quote:
Originally posted by ShEp
What hapens when his shitty filler crack and his mad spi sooks it all in?


question why would the the fibre glass and filler crack
Because your a badger
20valver
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quote:
Originally posted by Ellis
quote:
Originally posted by 20valver
quote:
Originally posted by ShEp
What hapens when his shitty filler crack and his mad spi sooks it all in?


question why would the the fibre glass and filler crack
Because your a badger


so you reckon because i am a c++t that is why the filler is going to crack,
question why would the the fibre glass and filler crack


[Edited on 06-12-2008 by 20valver]

[Edited on 06-12-2008 by 20valver]
20valver
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hey Ellis you need a verbal warning for calling a forum member a c++t

[Edited on 06-12-2008 by 20valver]
20valver
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but you would only get 4 warnings
Ryan
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he might have actually been meaning a badger though, in which case he does not need a warning.
DAZ1985
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its not like when you type cunt it says 20valver, its says cunt instead

[Edited on 06-12-2008 by DAZ1985]
adz_gsi
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lol this thread is p155 funny now
20valver
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quote:
Originally posted by DAZ1985
its not like when you type cunt it says 20valver, its says cunt instead

[Edited on 06-12-2008 by DAZ1985]


care to explain what you mean
20valver
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so why would you think this
DAZ1985
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no body is calling you a cunt as such directly 20valver

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