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Siberia22

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17th Nov 03 at 11:41

18.5 sec to 60 in a 1.2 hrm havta try that one out never timed it before i recon i could beat that

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17th Nov 03 at 11:41

quote:
Originally posted by blackula
Get a Dbilas manifold, I got one for a 1.2, just with a Dastek, drileld airbox and revised air feed, panel filter and system keeping original manifold cat, sounds like an Austin Healey 3000, has well over 110 bhp and will beat a mates Golf GTi 1.8 T (150bhp) up to 70 mph easily.

1.2 16v right?? not an 8v!!

Surprised it keeps up with a 1.8T Golf but hey if ya say it does....

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17th Nov 03 at 11:42

quote:
Originally posted by Siberia22
18.5 sec to 60 in a 1.2 hrm havta try that one out never timed it before i recon i could beat that

on standard rims ya can see bout 14 or 15 but its not accurate

1.0l12vbadboy

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17th Nov 03 at 11:43

well it dose still but it is over heard by the filter and the exhaust

Siberia22

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17th Nov 03 at 11:46

Well i have like 145/70's/R13's

Bet your all jealous now!

blackula

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17th Nov 03 at 11:47

The Golf 1.8 T is no rocket ship. The reason its quicker is mines lighter and has stupidly low gearing,but the extra power and torque of the Golf propels the car ahead later on. Anyway the 150 golf has a slowish time of 25 secs to 100 mph, for example a VTS is something like 22. I times mine to 23.5 secs to 100 mph which isnt bad for a 1.2, but then the 8v 106 Rallye 1.3 original version was making 100 bhp with 8v valves so 1.2 16v should be making better power with some tweaking.

Ditch

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17th Nov 03 at 12:30

quote:
Originally posted by blackula
sounds like an Austin Healey 3000, has well over 110 bhp and will beat a mates Golf GTi 1.8 T (150bhp) up to 70 mph easily.

WOW what a 1.2!!

i dont believe you!

DAYZEE

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17th Nov 03 at 12:44

quote:
Originally posted by blackula
The Golf 1.8 T is no rocket ship. The reason its quicker is mines lighter and has stupidly low gearing,but the extra power and torque of the Golf propels the car ahead later on. Anyway the 150 golf has a slowish time of 25 secs to 100 mph, for example a VTS is something like 22. I times mine to 23.5 secs to 100 mph which isnt bad for a 1.2, but then the 8v 106 Rallye 1.3 original version was making 100 bhp with 8v valves so 1.2 16v should be making better power with some tweaking.

blackula

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17th Nov 03 at 21:25

Cheeky.
I ain't some kid with his mams Corsa, I only tuned it cos it was too slow after a Zetec S, before that anything from a rusty tuned Silvia to a Maxima, a Cossie and a Vauxhall Magnum 2300 a long long time ago.

The Dbilas manifold alone gives a documented 22 bhp, just see the website, its not spurious claims, that alone gives a net of 97 bhp. Plus the other mods, and I'm being conservative.

I just invested in a a few vintage strats is I wanted to waste money on a mega high performance car I would instead.

Don't scoff at what you don't know about.

[Edited on 17-11-2003 by blackula]

thane

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17th Nov 03 at 22:02

my sri needs to be worked to go, but when it does my god does it shift after 3k! i used to drive a zetec s and they werent that quick to 60 but after that they were very close to a vts. i should get min rred to see what it's pushing out now but i have been told it was rred at 103bhp last year before the head was polished and skimmed and before the 17s came. i think it would need to be a well tuned 1.2 like you say to keep up with a golf, but even the n/a 2.0 golfs are slow so i reckons with the £££s behind it it would be possible.

stevegreetham

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Registered: 30th Oct 03
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17th Nov 03 at 22:15

hi, i have a 1.2 8 valve, its shit slow but as i have just passed my test and wiv me being 17 1/2 its good to get around town and we have to fink of the insurance.
no point in me modding this engine wudnt u agree?
i hear the 2.0 16v conversion wud set me back about 1500 which int 2 bad, n my insurance comp sed i can do that in 7 months so until then am just gonna get all the styling sorted. gd plan? or a shit plan lol?

Fraser Young

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17th Nov 03 at 22:20

Good plan

stevegreetham

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17th Nov 03 at 22:21

lol, cheers m8

PaulW

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17th Nov 03 at 22:22

or ya could leave it standard, save the money up to get it all done, then when the engines going in, strip the interior & cage it

Wolf in Sheep's clothing? yesh

blackula

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17th Nov 03 at 22:30

I chipped my first Zetec S at Ron Perry A19 test and tune when I lived up north. It rattled unless you used Super or Optimax thereafter. It was quicker though.

I'd say my tweaked Corsa 1.2 can't produce the Torque a chipped ZS could though say after 70 or 80 mph. Overcoming wind and rolling resistance.

uprated

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18th Nov 03 at 10:49

your insurance would let you have a 20. 16v at 18? how much and what insurance, my insurance wouldnt insure me for a 1.4 1.6v corsa, never mind a 2.0 conversion

stevegreetham

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18th Nov 03 at 11:05

i'm witrh nfu m8, (national farmers union) and b4 u ask, i am not a farmer or owt.
i am allowed to do up my car (kit, alloys, ice etc) and my insurance cost wont change as long as the value doesnt exceed 30 grand.
i am payin about 900-1000 tho which is a bit more than wot my m8s pay but i think it'll b worth it in the long run
the amount is obv gonna change wen i have the 2.0 but they sed not considerbaly (possibly an extra 500 quid)

John_C

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18th Nov 03 at 11:35

quote:
Originally posted by 1.0l12vbadboy
u would be suprised!!

ur delirious and hallucinating

Tom N

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18th Nov 03 at 20:59

ive got 15 secs 0-60 out of my 1.0l 12v

i hav an induction kit with heat shield, sportex back box an runnin on 15s. it noticeably picks up at 4k rpm where the induction kit kicks in cos thers a flat spot just before!