_felix
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hello,
i shall be fitting the c20xe engine to a 1.2 corsa ls, i plan on putting on 13"x9" wheels on the back and 13"x8" 's on the front. this however proves difficult as i'm told the brakes i need to stop the car are toooo big to go under 13" wheels.
if this is due to weight, then i might be ok as im stripping out the interior completely and leightening other areas.
if its down to speed, it's ok as i don't plan on breaking any speed limits just acceleration  .
please let me know how i can get round this, preferably without changing the wheels.
thanks in advance,
felix.
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bieransri
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maybe use the normal corsa brakes, but uprate the discs/pads and use a rear disc setup with uprated pads/discs?
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Adam_B
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id go 14s with clearance for big brakes.
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_felix
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see, this is my problem, 14" wheels are 1200 quid, 13" wheels are 150 quid see my dilemma.
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jonboy
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look at it the outher way mate whats more important paying a little extra fitting big brakes and knowing that ya will be able to stop
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Cybermonkey
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quote:
Originally posted by _felix
see, this is my problem, 14" wheels are 1200 quid, 13" wheels are 150 quid see my dilemma.
you have 2 options. stick with the 13's and the shocking brakes and be prepared to end up in a field upside down, or go for some 14's so you can just about fit a 2.0 setup
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_felix
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could i not just got front and rear uprated discs and pads of the same size? would this till not be good enough?
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_felix
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and 1050 quid is not a little bit more!!!!!! for a set of wheels
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Dean_W
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1.2 brakes a poop.
I thought my 1.6 brakes were poop also.
Don't be daft and get bigger brakes. As said above, you'll probably end up through a hedge or killing someone.
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craig8
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quote:
Originally posted by _felix
and 1050 quid is not a little bit more!!!!!! for a set of wheels
well if thats how much you value your safety at 
E36 328
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CoastalCorsa
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your 1200cc brakes will overheat within seconds of breaking at speeds higher than 70
my old 1200 used to do 90mph tops and on the rare occasion that i got to top speed if i braked hard my brakes would overheat and be as much use as a chocolate fire guard
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EarlofBarnet
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I'm going with 14s on mine which will just squeeze 256mm brakes under. Some decent pads and discs and they should be spot on.
Its what Astra GTEs came with as standard so they're meant for a C20XE.
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Cybermonkey
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quote:
Originally posted by _felix
could i not just got front and rear uprated discs and pads of the same size? would this till not be good enough?
no! they are solid discs, like has been said, they will overheat very quickly and will fade like crazy
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Robin
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14" wheels are a grand more that 13s?
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gavin18787
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rear disks i wouldnt make that much of a differnece with standard fronts as most of the braking is done at the front.
I would rather spend the money on the wheels and have some trust worthy brakes.
BTW what wheels are you looking at getting as there seems to be a big hike in price for an extra inch
Drives supercharged Tec with torque 
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Will_Sport
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why don't you go for some 15" tigger rims? they're aluminium so not heavy.
plus, surely it aint gonna handle very well on little rims?
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alistairolsen
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if your e going to stay small, you will need to go for 236mm vented disks and four pots or similr You dont need any more breaking, its just heat dissipation thats an issue with vauxhalls shite sliding caliper arrangement. Also rig up some ducts ont to disk vents.
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_felix
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right, to answer a few questions
the reason price is so different:
13" - weller steel wheels
14" - schmidt th split rims
this is due to the width needed for the euro look, 9" at back 8" up front
the reason i can't have 15's:
the are too big to lower and tyre stretch.
thirdly:
is it true that 236mm vented discs will fit under 13" wheels? i do want safety, but i will rarely be going over 70mph so stopping at great speeds is not an issue.
hope you can carry on giving me info and support
best regards,
felix.
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Robin
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15" wheels + 165/50 15 tyres = stretch, bigger brakes, and still very euro 
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Ian
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Rarely is not never.
You'll be able to get something under there, just make sure its better than standard spec for cars that came with 13s.
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_felix
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my intention was never to keep the brakes standard underneath the 13's i just want the best brakes posible to under 13's.
the reason i want 13's is that i want this car to be super low and really wide.
oh and could someone dig out a link to the 4 pot calipers i would need for a set of 236mm vented discs please.
thanks again everyone, best regards,
felix.
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alistairolsen
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www.raldes.co.uk for calipers etc. Disks from vaux or motorfactors. best youll get under 13s
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jamesvalver
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i wouldnt go any smaller than a 256mm disc on a 2.0 16v! im running 288mm v6 brakes on the front of mine and they do there job spot on! smallest wheels that'll fit are 15's tho
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