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Robin
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8th Feb 07 at 21:57   View Garage View User's Profile U2U Member Reply With Quote
If you put carbs on a fuel injected, dispack engine, how do you go about sorting a spark?

The engine can't be converted to run a dizzy, so needs to utilise the dispack setup, but I can't work out how you get the ignition timing right

If anyone has a clue, or a hunch, go.....
Warren G
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have to use mangament????

would get sensor off cranksensor
Warren G
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http://cgi.ebay.co.uk/Megajolt-Programmable-ECU_W0QQitemZ250082390131QQihZ015QQcategoryZ100921QQssPageNameZWDVWQQrdZ1QQcmdZViewItem

http://cgi.ebay.co.uk/Megajolt-MJLJ-Programmable-ECU-EDIS-MAP-TPS-2D-3D-PC_W0QQitemZ280080555229QQihZ018QQcategoryZ43120QQssPageNameZWDVWQQrdZ1QQcmdZViewItem

[Edited on 08-02-2007 by warren.g]
Warren G
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are you feeling a c16xe on carbs by any chance robin?
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X16

I knew about Megajolt, but it got a bit confusing saying it needed basically a FULL ford ignition setup and ecu for it to work

I thought it would be as easy as - crank sensor, trigger wheel, coil, dispack, megajolt, but it seems that you need loads of other stuff too :S
Vaux Lad
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It needs ford EDIS parts because the megajolt ecu can't control DISpak ignition coils directly.
It fires them through the EDIS module.

Quite easy to find in a scrapyard tho..

The rest is straightfoward.

MegaSquirt can control DIS directly, but it is more expensive as its able to control fuel too.
Vaux Lad
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http://cgi.ebay.co.uk/EDIS-module-coilpack-wiring-etc-4-megasquirt-megajolt_W0QQitemZ170079108658QQihZ007QQcategoryZ21654QQssPageNameZWDVWQQrdZ1QQcmdZViewItem
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I see, so it works like a piggyback system on the Ford EDIS setup?

It just confused me because it seemed to need the EEC-IV bit as well, which As far as I know, is a proper ECU

I suppose that's fairly simple anyway, not gonna struggle to find the bits.

Thanks.
Warren G
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planning to use r6 carbs?
http://cgi.ebay.co.uk/Yamaha-YZF-R6-Carbs-Carburettors-GWO-NO-RESERVE_W0QQitemZ290079734435QQihZ019QQcategoryZ10490QQssPageNameZWDVWQQrdZ1QQcmdZViewItem

as far as i can understand,

to run the 3d map (much better)
you will need a TPS sensor on the carbs or use the vauxhall MAP senor, to give the ECU a load input so it can work out advance better

the EDIS, well read this
http://www.dainst.com/info/edis/edis.html
basicaly doesnt need a cam sensor like most cars

so your gonna get a x16xe corsa on carbs, should be good

[Edited on 09-02-2007 by warren.g]
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you dont need the eec-iv bit, thats what the megajolt replaces so it becomes mappable.
the only headaches are fitting a 36-1 trigger wheel, and a TPS to the carbs (a MAP sensor would be a nightmare do to no inlet plenum to tap into, meaning you'd have to tap off all 4 inlet runners and then fit a mini plenum to balance it out)
Robin
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That's the bit I couldn't understand Rob, it makes perfect sense now
Vaux Lad
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Just fit a TPS to the carb spindle.

Map sensor is too hard to do on a multi carb/tb setup.
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Article in total vauxhall about fitting R1 carbs to XE engines (small blocks included) if thats any help
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why would you be so primitave! get tb's you gimp!

youll need management, like gotech, could run it off a vacume if tps is an issue, but not sure youll get a good enough vacume off carbs
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A set of bike TBs is roughly same price as carbs.
And i dont really think theres any reason to choose carbs over tb's....

 
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