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qasimcorsamad
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17th Aug 09 at 18:14   View User's Profile U2U Member Reply With Quote

im thinking of gettiN A PAIR FOR MY MAIN BEAM LIGHTS. THEY ARE 8000K AND GIVE A PURE WHITE LIGHT. i heard some hid lights are illegal.
is this true?
davieslim
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17th Aug 09 at 18:17   View User's Profile U2U Member Reply With Quote

ive got 8000k and there blue, there illegal
John
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17th Aug 09 at 18:23   View User's Profile U2U Member Reply With Quote

8000k don't give a pure white light, 4300k are closer to white.

Illegal unless you have self leveling, washers and lights designed for them.
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17th Aug 09 at 18:33   View User's Profile U2U Member Reply With Quote

In Short: All HIDs are illegal (even factory fitted)

Long answer:

they are legal in new cars as they are EU type approved and this trumps UK Law.
retrofitting is not strictly legal or illegal as there are no laws which specifically state that HIDs are illegal however there are also no laws which state that HIDs are legal

For new cars there needs to be an automatic headlight levelling system and headlight washers. the HIDs also need to be fitted into an HID suitable headlight assembly (usually a projector lens)

For retrofitting there is no requirement for any of the above however as I've already said its not stricly legal to fit them at all.

8000k will give a blue light and will be asking for a tug off the police in some areas
6000k can be a little blue and could be a problem
I would recommend 4300k as these are almost totally white.

I would also recommend fitting them into projector lens headlights as these will help to give a better beam and should reduce the chances off a pull

Ive got 4300k bulbs in projector lenses



you can see how much whiter they are than the yellowy foglights (which have halfords ultra white bulbs in!)
John
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How are factory fitted HID's illegal

Also, the rules don't stipulate anything about retrofitting, the rules are standard across the board, you need exactly the same kit as factory fit.

[Edited on 17-08-2009 by John]
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there is nothing in the UK type approvals which specifically states that they are legal.

they are allowed however as the vehicles with them fitted are EU type approved and the UK cannot refuse to register a vehicle with is type approved for EU use.

maybe illegal was the wrong choice of word however technically they are NOT legal

EDIT For your edit: there is no requirement for projectors/levelling/washers for retrofitting as there is nothing in the UK regulations which makes retrofitting of HIDs legal

[Edited on 17-08-2009 by 12vMatt]
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The only rules on its say you need self leveling, washers and a light unit designed for hids, it doesn't say anything about retrofitting or not.
qasimcorsamad
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right what can the police do if they stop me with the HID's
qasimcorsamad
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right what can the police do if they stop me with the HID's
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17th Aug 09 at 19:01   View User's Profile U2U Member Reply With Quote

Whos gives a shit

I got 10000k hids in my standard lights! Blind road users FTW
qasimcorsamad
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yh i might be gettin the 8k or 6k but im worried about the police stoping me and cancelling my insurance policy. is it possible?
John
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quote:
Originally posted by Corsa_Quadz
Whos gives a shit

I got 10000k hids in my standard lights! Blind road users FTW


What about the 10000k blinds other road users more than 4300k ones?

That figure is the colour temperature.
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18th Aug 09 at 10:57   View User's Profile U2U Member Reply With Quote

the police have no authority to cancel your insurance policy.
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quote:
Originally posted by John
quote:
Originally posted by Corsa_Quadz
Whos gives a shit

I got 10000k hids in my standard lights! Blind road users FTW


What about the 10000k blinds other road users more than 4300k ones?

That figure is the colour temperature.


Ok picky,

the higher the Kelvin rating the more intense the light is but visibility is reduced and doesnt travel as far,
the lower the kelvin rating the less intense it is, but is more visible and travels further
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The colour temperature describes the colour and nothing else, 10000K just means it's purple.
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quote:
Originally posted by John
The colour temperature describes the colour and nothing else, 10000K just means it's purple.


Then its down to personal choice then, if someone wants a deeper colour then the higher up the range they can go ideally 8000k - 10000k therefore reducing the lumens produced.

If someone wants a more white colour then stay lower in the range 4000k - 6000k resulting in higher lumens.

Either way you look at it i pointed out about blinding drivers! Then as usual someone has to question it to look good

I chose 10000k for personal preference



 
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