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ash-ov-boro

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20th May 11 at 22:50

just swapped my 1.0 12v engine for an x16xe and it red lines at 5000 revs what could this be

its got a 4-1 manifold

straight through centre section

and no air box atm

theres a bit of a flat spot too inbetween 1000-2000 revs pulls really well though untill 5000 revs lol

johnhara1

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20th May 11 at 23:22

The rev limit is actually 5000 revs (as in it bounces) or it just wont pull past 5k?

ash-ov-boro

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21st May 11 at 04:34

as in it doesnt rev past 5000 revs i this normal ?

expected it to rev up to 6800 revs or so like the 1.0 used to

ash-ov-boro

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21st May 11 at 17:40

Just removed battery to reset ecu see if that sorts it ..

Anyone know what else could cause this dodgy sensor maybe

ash-ov-boro

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21st May 11 at 18:15

just been told it could be in limp home mode ..
could this be right ?

[Edited on 21-05-2011 by ash-ov-boro]

Linch

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21st May 11 at 18:25

You still got the 1.0 clocks in the car?

ash-ov-boro

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21st May 11 at 19:22

put the battery back on let it idle and its still doing it

Mike

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21st May 11 at 19:24

quote:
Originally posted by Linch
You still got the 1.0 clocks in the car?

ash-ov-boro

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21st May 11 at 19:25

quote:
Originally posted by Linch
You still got the 1.0 clocks in the car?

no its got the clocks in from the sport we stripped

how would i know if its in limp mode would it run dog rough..

it runs pretty well apart from red lining at 5000 revs

daine

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21st May 11 at 22:31

whats reg of car, and what colours are at the top of ECU. ?

IvIarkgraham

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21st May 11 at 23:14

corsas dont have limp mode

ash-ov-boro

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22nd May 11 at 04:16

My car is r reg engine came from an N reg 1.4 sport what was converted to a x16xe so don't know reg

ash-ov-boro

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22nd May 11 at 04:18

quote:
Originally posted by daine
whats reg of car, and what colours are at the top of ECU. ?

If you mean what colour are the plugs on the ecu there red and blue I think

ash-ov-boro

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22nd May 11 at 18:20

Why did you want to know what colours are on the top of the ecu?

Just going to swap the bulb on the EMLand see what codes I get

daine

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22nd May 11 at 20:17

The early ECU is red and blue and the late ECU is red and cream, the wiring looms are slightly different too. ( knock sensor) I had this problem, fitted a early ECU to a 1997 R and it wouldn`t rev over 5000, like boucing off a limiter. Bought a later ECU and the car run like a dream

Archie

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22nd May 11 at 23:29

Had this problem about a year ago.

Bought a 16 sport that i later built into an XE.

Engine loom was messy so i swapped the tidyer one off my GSI in, realised the plugs were different so swapped ech etc in (GSI was an x16 so thought it'd be fine)
It done the same limiting at 5k thing swapped it back and it was fine.

ash-ov-boro

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26th May 11 at 14:27

tried the paper clip test today but the eml didnt even light up not even when i first turn'd the key

but the eml bulb does work as it was on all the way home from the breakers yard :S

could some one tell me which ones i should be sticking the paper clip in ..

i tried the 5th & 6th one up on the right hand side

mex

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26th May 11 at 14:47

Knock sensor.

Either a faulty knock sensor

or

Knock sensor wiring needs changing to the older/earlier version to suit your ecu.

[Edited on 26-05-2011 by mex]

ash-ov-boro

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26th May 11 at 14:49

quote:
Originally posted by mex
Knock sensor.

What about it mate I think it could be that too but want to see what codes the eml gives me first

jamjar15

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26th May 11 at 14:51

i had the same problem, but after alot of pissin about with crank sensors, ecu's, afm n all that i decided ill do the easy thing n buy a corsa c instead

mex

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26th May 11 at 14:56

quote:
Originally posted by ash-ov-boro

quote:
Originally posted by mex
Knock sensor.

What about it mate I think it could be that too but want to see what codes the eml gives me first

If its knock sensor it will be code #16 iirc

They have a tendancy to just die, or what i did when doing my coversion i used a late type version of wiring on a early ecu, it wouldn't go past 5k revs, as soon as i changed the wire for the specific knock sensor it was fine as the ecu reads it properly.

I didnt know there where 2 types of knock sensor until last week.

mex

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26th May 11 at 14:58

also you want to short out number 5,6 to read your eml code

found here

http://www.topbuzz.co.uk/info/fault_codes/fault_codes.htm

ash-ov-boro

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26th May 11 at 15:29

yep tried that mex but eml didnt even come on soon as i turned key

i know that it should come on and then go off on start up but it doesnt .. really confusing as the eml was on earlier

ash-ov-boro

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26th May 11 at 23:18

Tried the paper clip test again eml didn't show on two clicks of the ignition so I started the car it sounded different was not idle'ing as lumpy as it was so took the paper clip out whilst it was still started and it changed idle

Banged paper clip back in give the rev a blast and it reached 6800/7000 k revs what I want to know is would having the paper clip in slot 5&6 damage anything on my car

Tbh I don't know how having a paper clip in there can sort that but it did so I'm happy