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Sam
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Back in the old days of ISDN you could "bond" or multiplex individual channels for faster Internet.

What is the modern equivalent for DSL broadband? And can you do this on-site or does it have to be done by your ISP somehow?
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You can have funky routers that do it.

Dual WAN or Multi WAN routers
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I recommend draytek vigors used them alot in the past
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Any recommended makes? I'm guessing something Cisco is needed?

Edit - oops too slow to post lol

[Edited on 04-07-2012 by Sam]
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Ive used the 6 port one before and the 3g connectivity one. Its more load balancing than anything. ISP can bond lines at the exchange but it costs big £
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There you go BT-
http://business.bt.com/bondedadsl/pricing/
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https://www.bethere.co.uk/web/beportal/linebonding
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Ahh right.

I was just thinking of terms of large offices or say places that want an 'Internet Cafe' setting up.

One company I know has about 30 or so employees (most with PCs connected to the net etc.) and they have a 8Mb BT Home Broadband package at their office
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Ahh right.

I was just thinking of terms of large offices or say places that want an 'Internet Cafe' setting up.

One company I know has about 30 or so employees (most with PCs connected to the net etc.) and they have a 8Mb BT Home Broadband package at their office


Internet cafe i would just go for multiple connections then load balance it.

Office i would do it at the exchange. (only if they have things internally that need a static IP.)

DR option would be 2 lines but going to different exchanges
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8mb should be fine for 30 people, its the people that need sorting out.

Have a local proxy doing caching to speed up pages every mug is looking at.

Do they need to be downloading? no? block it.

Block bullshit non-business services at the firewall.

Block Internet Radio.

Educate users in why sending 10MB attachments is not good
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Usually it's not physical bonding (at either end) that presents itself as a single 'pipe' rather you're given (or get) multiple connections which you load balance across. But Load balancing has it's pros and cons.

Can they not get a better connection than 8Mb?
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Sam is this a general post or do you have an objective, if the latter what is it my internet friend
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Bit of both really Will, the Office have an Exchange server in house and they often send large files out to people either via WeTransfer or something like that, or by email, so whenever they do that the Internet slows down to a snail's pace for the whole company and emails get delayed etc.

They are quite tight though but I thought it'd be good to offer a solution if/when they get pissed off with it and want non-dialup Internet speeds
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Buy another 8MB connection and just route the Exchange traffic out of that. Let everyone/everything else use the other Internet connection. boom.
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Draytek do this
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Easynet Etherstream bond upto 8 lines into one iirc.

quite a few suppliers do it now.
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As Nismo said.

8Mb ADSL is fine for most smaller companies. Paying £30 quid for a line which might go down is a trade off worth making instead of some sort of 5Mb connection that costs £300 and might go down just as often.

We've got a £300 EFM connection here, goes down more often that the £8 ADSL, and the download is about 4x slower.

Is LLU available at the site, swapping to a 20/3 connection might solve the problem.

[Edited on 04-07-2012 by John]
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As its said it might be worth putting the exchange on 1 line, browsing on 1 line, voip on another line, wifi on 1 line etc... thats how we do it in our office,
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AS VRSTurbo keeps saying DRAYTEKS DO THIS.
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Forgot I've also got loads of stuff with load balancing on the drayteks. don't use it for actual load balancing though, just send some traffic over one connection and some over the other.
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Same here, SMTP always goes out over one to use one ISPs SMTP servers

 
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