Ben G
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Hadn't painted the bathroom ceiling ever (we moved in almost 6 years ago!) until last week. Previous owner thought he'd paint in a beige colour to match the tiles, but I prefer white ceilings, so I went over it with standard dulux brilliant white emulsion.
Directly above the shower it has decided to peel off, which I assume is due to moisture and steam, so I need a more specialised paint.
Problem is, B&Q only seem to stock dulux bathroom paint in a soft sheen colour. I don't want a shiny ceiling, so can anyone recommend a decent matt finish paint for bathrooms?
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Ojc
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Nothing to do with the Matt emulsion, well it won't help but someone hasn't mist coated and it's lifted with the moisture.
Go to Crown, use anything with a sheen. Dulux emulsion is getting progressively worse.
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Ojc
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Soft sheen is exactly that as well, the shine is barely noticeable
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Ben G
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Yeah I don't particularly like using Dulux after their satinwood white paint left my skirting a yellow colour.
Would this be OK?
http://www.homebase.co.uk/en/homebaseuk/crown-kitchen-and-bathroom-breatheasy-pure-brilliant-white---matt-emulsion-paint---25l-054105
Also, am I ok scraping off the flaky paint and then painting straight over? It's an artex ceiling so won't be noticeable at all.
[Edited on 06-03-2016 by Ben G]
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Ian
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I too need to do this job the same reason. Mine is a bit older but same issue.
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MarkM
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Same here too.
Oliver Cromwell will a single coat suffice?
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MarkM
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quote:
Originally posted by Ben G
Yeah I don't particularly like using Dulux after their satinwood white paint left my skirting a yellow colour.
Would this be OK?
http://www.homebase.co.uk/en/homebaseuk/crown-kitchen-and-bathroom-breatheasy-pure-brilliant-white---matt-emulsion-paint---25l-054105
Also, am I ok scraping off the flaky paint and then painting straight over? It's an artex ceiling so won't be noticeable at all.
[Edited on 06-03-2016 by Ben G]
I think I use a water based Johnson paint to stop the yellowing. I think it has something to do with using oil based paint. Water based means it's not as smooth or shiny but years down the line isn't still white.
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Steve
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Ollie crowe won't have a clue really. Just does what his dad tells him
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Ben G
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 I'll have you know he's a professional painter.
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Ojc
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Yellowing is caused by being oil based but will always be sped up by a lack of natural light.
Again Crowns trim paint is much improved to stop the yellowing but unless using water based you'll never eliminate it.
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Ojc
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quote:
Originally posted by Ben G
Yeah I don't particularly like using Dulux after their satinwood white paint left my skirting a yellow colour.
Would this be OK?
http://www.homebase.co.uk/en/homebaseuk/crown-kitchen-and-bathroom-breatheasy-pure-brilliant-white---matt-emulsion-paint---25l-054105
Also, am I ok scraping off the flaky paint and then painting straight over? It's an artex ceiling so won't be noticeable at all.
[Edited on 06-03-2016 by Ben G]
Again the issue is what's underneath or lack of, it will continue doing this as it's never been prepared properly. It might last longer but it'll continue to flake.
That emulsion would be perfect for the job though
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Ben G
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Righto, cheers oliver  not sure what to seal the flaky parts with though. Any idea's? I've heard pva mentioned.
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Ojc
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Zinsser do a product called 'Peel stop' specifically for what you're after.
All their products are second to none.
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3CorsaMeal
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Plastidip it
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Ben G
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I did not see any zinsser stuff in Homebase. There was some Ronseal undercoat stuff in a spray can which said it would stop paint flaking, so hopefully that'll be OK.
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IvIarkgraham
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I had a flaking problem. Stripped off all the old paint, PVA base then used bathroom paint. Pretty sure it was dulux. Brother fell asleep one night with the shower meaning moisture was dripping from the ceiling but it still hasn't flaked
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Ojc
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quote:
Originally posted by Ben G
I did not see any zinsser stuff in Homebase. There was some Ronseal undercoat stuff in a spray can which said it would stop paint flaking, so hopefully that'll be OK.
Won't be good as Zinsser.
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Ojc
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quote:
Originally posted by IvIarkgraham
I had a flaking problem. Stripped off all the old paint, PVA base then used bathroom paint. Pretty sure it was dulux. Brother fell asleep one night with the shower meaning moisture was dripping from the ceiling but it still hasn't flaked
You done it properly that's why.
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3CorsaMeal
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Bet its dried cum that's flaking off the ceiling, shower wanking every morning
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Ben G
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quote:
Originally posted by Ojc
quote:
Originally posted by Ben G
I did not see any zinsser stuff in Homebase. There was some Ronseal undercoat stuff in a spray can which said it would stop paint flaking, so hopefully that'll be OK.
Won't be good as Zinsser.
Moving out this year hopefully so couldn't care less
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deano87
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quote:
Originally posted by Ben G
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Originally posted by Ojc
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Originally posted by Ben G
I did not see any zinsser stuff in Homebase. There was some Ronseal undercoat stuff in a spray can which said it would stop paint flaking, so hopefully that'll be OK.
Won't be good as Zinsser.
Moving out this year hopefully so couldn't care less
http://www.screwfix.com/c/decorating/paint/cat850142?brand=zinsser&cm_sp=managedredirect-_-decorating-_-zinsserpaint
We had a moisture problem behind our dishwasher and washing machine where the pipes were cold (old non-cavity house). Applied a decent coat of their Perma-White Mould & Mildew-Proof. Worked a treat. Not cheap though 
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MarkM
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quote:
Originally posted by Ojc
Yellowing is caused by being oil based but will always be sped up by a lack of natural light.
Again Crowns trim paint is much improved to stop the yellowing but unless using water based you'll never eliminate it.
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IvIarkgraham
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quote:
Originally posted by Ojc
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Originally posted by IvIarkgraham
I had a flaking problem. Stripped off all the old paint, PVA base then used bathroom paint. Pretty sure it was dulux. Brother fell asleep one night with the shower meaning moisture was dripping from the ceiling but it still hasn't flaked
You done it properly that's why.
Because I'm a professional painter
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