JoeyB
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My girfriends Cambelt went yesterday...coasting at about 15-20mph...it is unfortunately a 16v 1.4 Ecotec engine an the AA man didn't sound to promising...i am gonna change the belt and check the valves....what are the chances of them not all being bent?
And any idea's on cost per valve?
Cheers
Joe
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Cybermonkey
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Chances next to none im afraid. Would have all been bent to fuck. Expensive.
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JoeyB
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Any ideas where to get the valves from? Im doing it myself with her Dad....so its only the cost of parts...
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Gambit
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vauxhall
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sri_tastic
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valves cost about 20 wuid each if i remember rightly from when my cam belt went you will probably need to replace all of them. you may also have damage to the head, water pump etc so if your doing it yourself make sure you know what your doing m8. good luck
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M2RTY
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28 quid each i was quoted from vaux
thats 16 valves in total
id say 8 or less will be bent on average, BUT 16vs are notoriouse for bending a LOT of them
mine only did 3 tho, and what a job it was to get hold of some
bought a second hand head for a 10er in the end
need cambelt, head gasket etc also
was a 2 day job 4 me as i couldnt get any bits (was a bank holiday also)
good luck
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M2RTY
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quote:
Originally posted by sri_tastic
valves cost about 20 wuid each if i remember rightly from when my cam belt went you will probably need to replace all of them. you may also have damage to the head, water pump etc so if your doing it yourself make sure you know what your doing m8. good luck
also check that they havnt damaged the pistons and the cam
a week after i did mine, althought it looked ok, the cam needed replacing as it had been damaged by the bent valves
also might need the lifters doing (look for scorring on them)
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Greasemonkey
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If you want cheaper vauxhall parts give LMF a call they will sell every thing you need to fix the head might take a week to get the parts to you though carnt remember the number but its a full page ad in TV
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and-m
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When was the belt last changed on that engine?
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AdiSRI
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Mine did the same at a constant 30mph in 4th. All valves were bent, pistons were marked etc....
I got a replacement new engine, cost a bomb but i know this one is sound now!
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Juni0r
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Same happened to me!! Bent all 16v marked all pistons etc.
Depending on the age/mileage of the car take it to Vaux as they repaired mine and paid 90% of the cost. Only paid the 10% for the years warranty!! My car was R reg done 17K when it happened. The belts were originally guarantied to do 40K!!!!!
See what they say!
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M2RTY
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quote:
Originally posted by Juni0r
Same happened to me!! Bent all 16v marked all pistons etc.
Depending on the age/mileage of the car take it to Vaux as they repaired mine and paid 90% of the cost. Only paid the 10% for the years warranty!! My car was R reg done 17K when it happened. The belts were originally guarantied to do 40K!!!!!
See what they say!
haynez says 80k, but 40k to be on safe side
i know some1 in a v6 vectra who had a new 1 fitted to be on save side, then the adjuster fooked and snapped the belt a week later (it was vauxhauls fault as they fitted it incorrectly) and all 24 valves bent, along with a VERY large bill
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Kerry
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quote:
Originally posted by M2RV H
i know some1 in a v6 vectra who had a new 1 fitted to be on save side, then the adjuster fooked and snapped the belt a week later (it was vauxhauls fault as they fitted it incorrectly) and all 24 valves bent, along with a VERY large bill
that thought is with me everytime i turn the key in the ignition. when i bought my car a year ago it had just had new belt and tensioners. ive only done 10k since do u think it will be ok for a while yet?
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JoeyB
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Cheers for the info/hints/advice lads..MUCH appreciated!
The car is a 1994-M SRi. I really dont know when the belt was last done as it had a vague history with it...(lesson learnt there)...it has covered 73k or there abouts, i will check all the above stuff and see if its worth replacing valves or getting a 2nd hand head.
Many thanks
Joe
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M2RTY
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kerry, to be safe id do it every 20 or so, but i dont know what the recomended mileage is
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AdiSRI
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quote:
Originally posted by M2RV H
i know some1 in a v6 vectra who had a new 1 fitted to be on save side, then the adjuster fooked and snapped the belt a week later (it was vauxhauls fault as they fitted it incorrectly) and all 24 valves bent, along with a VERY large bill
Thats what happened to my corsa, belt was about 20k and 2 ish years old. It snapped due to incorrectly fitted tensioner, i went to vaux and basically got told to SOD OFF!
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Juni0r
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Looks like i was fcukin lucky!!
To repaire mine cost £2800!!!!!
Was going to get a 2.0 in stead if i had to pay would have been cheaper!!!
[Edited on 22-08-2003 by Juni0r]
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AdiSRI
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Exactly m8, cost me £1600 but that was a BRAND NEW engine fully fitted done and i had to run it in etc...
Was £200 more for a 2 litre, but my insurance co said they wudnt cover me with an engine conversion (Was insured with guess who, VAUXHALL insurance LOL).
Juni0r u spoken to andy at berkshire bodyshop yet bout ure bonnet?? Get the saxo spoiler on too m8 like mine!
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Juni0r
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Not yet! Was gonna wait and see the job done on ya car first. Will have the bonnet done and the front splitter/bumper depending on which i keep + the door handles!
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DODG-E
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mine went when i was in traffic! tried turnin it over for ages and ages and only bent 2 valves.
I got a 2nd hand head for £40 which was a lot easier than replacin the valves..
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cobra148
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I had the belt snap in a 1400 Astra, my Mrs was driving at the time and continuously turned it over, trying to start it 
I was expecting a huge bill, but luckilly only two bent valves, cost about a tenner each then.
Expect the worst but you might get lucky. Crazy innit, the life of the engine relies on a rubber band 
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IntaCepta
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mines for due for a change, (41k) gonna get the whole kit tho, (tensioners, rollers, belt) comming to about 85£ in all.
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cobra148
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quote:
Originally posted by IntaCepta
mines for due for a change, (41k) gonna get the whole kit tho, (tensioners, rollers, belt) comming to about 85£ in all.
Thats deffo not a Vauxhall price then 
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Garnz
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i have 1.2 8v and i was @ 60mph and my cam belt snapped 3 valves were fooked cost £200 to get fixed you will need a new water pump as thats what the cam belts tensioner is connected to if u mess with the pump it my cause leaks so get a new one to be safe!!!
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miles
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Get parts from autovaux. Much cheaper than vaux. Check all valves in a drill to see if they are bent. Might be easier to buy a complete secondhand head and just drop it on.
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