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nod911
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I havent owned a corsa before so i am not sure if what i am experiencing is normal. The engine pulls nice from idle till about 3000-3500 rpm where it quite noticibly hits a flat spot until about 4500 rpm when it takes back off right till redline. The car is making nice power above 4500 and feels quite strong other than the problem mentioned. It is quite anoying because at freeway speeds i am sitting right in the middle of that flat spot....meaning i have to drop back a gear if i need to get moving quickly. The plugs have recently been changed.

I would appreciate hearing everyones thoughts, Thanks alot.
Rileysport
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should be starting to pick up at 3k ish rpm not flattening out
nod911
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Sorry i should also mention the engine has a 2" exhaust system fitted and uses factory airbox.
Rileysport
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2 inch exhaust... otherwise standard ? probs why you have a flat spot
nod911
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Thanks for your reply mate. So you think the problem may be the larger exhaust, what could i do to cure this problem? And may i also ask why the exhaust would cause this problem?
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is it 2 inch bore pipe all the way thru? the bore size moves the power about a bit , i.e larger bore = better gas flow, for top end but no back pressure for any low down power, thats on bikes, assume cars work similar
nod911
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well i bought the car as is, but when last under the car it looks like it runs from the standard exhaust manifold back.
Rileysport
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10th Feb 05 at 12:14   View User's Profile U2U Member Reply With Quote

check air filter etc, ht leads too... but i think 2 inch is a little large for a 1.6
nod911
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ok, thanks for the advice
Siberia
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what bors is a 1.2 8v exhaust? whatever it is i have that as my cat back...

car pulls like a mofo
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2" is spot on for a 1.6 really mate!
nod911
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Is it a common trait of the X16XE to behave as described above?
Joff
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Exhaust is fine, the 1.6 16v engines are just crap.

I said that all the time I owned mine and no-one would believe me
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You lie joff... you lie, oh and whilse i'm at it is that cat converter thing i bought actually a cat converter ?
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It's not a cat converter.. it's a cat pipe.

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so nat catalytic bits in then ? explains why it sounds fookin evil then
Siberia
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quote:
Originally posted by SRi-Co
so nat catalytic bits in then ? explains why it sounds fookin evil then


no cat? thats against the law isnt it....
Rileysport
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i do have three kittens
Joff
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quote:
Originally posted by Siberia
quote:
Originally posted by SRi-Co
so nat catalytic bits in then ? explains why it sounds fookin evil then


no cat? thats against the law isnt it....


It's the standard cat that came off my Sport. Nothing special.
Rileysport
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i'm legal woohoo
1600power
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I've been experiencing this with my car aswell. When it went on the rolling road at a Vauxhall tuners it was very apparent that I had a flatspot around that rev range aswell and the guy that did it for me suggestted renewing HT leads, sparkplugs etc he didnt understand really why it was doing it mind so it could well be something else?
James R
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could check the timing, might be a tooth out making it run oddly in the midrange??
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Vauxhall's OE HT leads are pretty much lifetime leads. Check everything else - filter, plugs, etc.
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quote:
Originally posted by j1400
could check the timing, might be a tooth out making it run oddly in the midrange??


surely there would be more side affect though...
James R
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I'm not sure what you mean?? side effect, if the cam timing is out then the ecu will not cope very well.
Have you tried re-setting the ecu??

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