britaxcooper
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Trying to change my cam belt this morning, needs to be done before this evening.
Anyway I just cant get the alternator belt off, its a 8v 1.4 B, ive undone the torx bolts 3 of them around the top of the alternator but it wont move to slacken off the belt, the haynes mentions a spring tensioner yet i cant make any sense of that or see one. Theres a bolt under the alternator which it may pivot on? about 16mm dia. but its tight solid so help me please.
Also when undoing the water pump allen bolts, i can see 2 but i cant get to the otehr 
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mmmm is it not moving because its too stiff? maybe abit of WD40 will help?
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britaxcooper
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put some WD on the bolt and i cant move it. I dont know if its what im ment to do to take it off, i dont really have much experience with modern cars. Minis are easyier 
Ill have another go at this bolt now...
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Rileysport
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Bolt on the "slide" at the top of the inlet manifold... slacken that off, its a 15mm both sides i think, the alternator wll then pivot towards the front of the car, the spring tensioner is only on 16v cars or those with PAS/ Air con 
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britaxcooper
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The haynes lies, i was reading the bit about NO air con/PAS 
The bolt on the top "slide" is out as you can see, that was a torx bolt just from one side.
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britaxcooper
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no bolts there for sure
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Rileysport
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Try to "persuade" the top of the alternator towards the front of the car... a good hammer works well for this purpose
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Siberia
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get an iron bar... your jack handle will do... put it against the altenator and use the bulkhead of the car to lever it altenator towards the engine...
dont take no shit form it 
off topic.. Adam d......i can now see why you were able to use the v-belt with your conversion... its a different altenator on the 1.2 8v 
[Edited on 16-06-2005 by Siberia]
[Edited on 16-06-2005 by Siberia]
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britaxcooper
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just went for the t*atting method, worked well  belts off
just this bolts to go now, i really need to get this new belt on by 1:30pm
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britaxcooper
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also a little help required in getting the larger pulley off the end of the crank, haynes doesnt seem to mention that, i got the torx socket but how do you lock it in place so you can undo the nut without turning the engine over
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Rileysport
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smack it with a hammer, the jolt'll get it off without tuning the engine over... much
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Siberia
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put the car in fifth gear... get someone to stand on the break.... why everyone has so much trouble with this i dunno......
make sure you line up yer timing marks before you remove the belt...
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Rileysport
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Try remove the bugger on a redtop... or not
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Siberia
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quote:
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Try remove the bugger on a redtop... or not
i dont fanny around with things i'll introduce him to mr drill
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britaxcooper
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yeah i relised that was a silly question, must be the late nights, although 5th gear? i would have thought 1st was better? but yeah ill lock the transmition up, i have the road wheel off so will have to put a bar through the studs.
It would be easier if i had someone at mine to stand on the brakes 
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Siberia
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quote:
Originally posted by britaxcooper
yeah i relised that was a silly question, must be the late nights, although 5th gear? i would have thought 1st was better? but yeah ill lock the transmition up, i have the road wheel off so will have to put a bar through the studs.
It would be easier if i had someone at mine to stand on the brakes
so what have you learned for the next time you do a timing belt
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Rileysport
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... Take the engine out... much easier
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britaxcooper
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i think a new engine might be the best idea........although as ive said the corsa is my everyday car, im sticking to minis ive decided, even if i do put a XE in the mini
belts off now anyway, didnt have to slacken the water pump as the haynes said it just took alot of getting off
gotta find the new belt now
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Siberia
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dunno know if your replacing them but most snaped cambelts are caused by water pump or tensioner failure and not the actuall belt
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Rileysport
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and when you tension a new belt up, you'll strain and kill the bearings in the water pump anyway... had this on a rover vvc lump... twice, the muppets
[Edited on 16-06-2005 by SRi-Co]
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Siberia
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you'd wanna see the water pump that i took out of the misusis tigra holly feck how it didnt explode... the baring was non exsistant... you could move the pully 10mm in every direction 47k on the clock...
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quote:
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you'd wanna see the water pump that i took out of the misusis tigra holly feck how it didnt explode... the baring was non exsistant... you could move the pully 10mm in every direction 47k on the clock...
someone forgot anti-freeze didnt they
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britaxcooper
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quote:
Originally posted by Siberia
dunno know if your replacing them but most snaped cambelts are caused by water pump or tensioner failure and not the actuall belt
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britaxcooper
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Oh and she runs now had a slight scare but then i realised i didnt connect up a wire i took out to get better access
even had a wash to celebrate
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