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greebo2
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8th Sep 05 at 17:53   View User's Profile U2U Member Reply With Quote

My cat off the 1l 12v engine has a crack in one of the welded seam joints so it's
blowing through the joint. It's a standard bosal cat (factory fitted). Cat is 3 years/30K miles.
The crack is actually in the original weld on the top seam - not very wide, inch or two long.

Is it possible to get these welded, or will the heat from the welding destroy the
ceramic insides of the cat? If I get it welded will it last any time? Or is it better
to just get a new cat?
greengoddess
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8th Sep 05 at 18:01   View User's Profile U2U Member Reply With Quote

I had a crack in my 12v cat and i got it welded but it only lasted 2-3 weeks, so it is better in the long run to get a new one and save the cost of having it welded.
fragpot
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8th Sep 05 at 18:05   View User's Profile U2U Member Reply With Quote

Mig doesnt really last on cats, gas welding would probably hold much better. It should be able to take the welding heat, afterall cats run at 800 odd degrees anyway.
greebo2
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8th Sep 05 at 18:17   View User's Profile U2U Member Reply With Quote

local welder said he'd do it for 30 quid including
removal/refitting (I've got the manifold joint gasket)
that compares to £160 for new cat at good local
garage - bosal cat parts and fitting
(or total rip-off main Vaux dealer Hartwell quoted
me £425 parts and labour for the same job)
Siberia
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8th Sep 05 at 18:49   View User's Profile U2U Member Reply With Quote

https://sslrelay.com/buypartsby.co.uk/cat_details.php?recordID=1553
greebo2
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Cheers for the link but I already phoned them -
it's ex vat and you have to add vat to post as well so it works out exactly 100 quid to actually buy it.

I asked them what make they were and all they would say was "it's our own brand". I asked if they were oem Bosal or Timax and he said no. The vaux factory fitted ones are bosal I believe.
Siberia
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8th Sep 05 at 19:17   View User's Profile U2U Member Reply With Quote

i have a cat from them on my c16xe... its fine... fitted like a glove too...

just think its alot of hassle to go get it wleded only for it to break again in a few months...

but its up to you as to what you think is best
greebo2
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glad to hear those cats are good I thought they might be cheap imports flogged over the internet coz he wouldn't tell me who they buy them from (the web site is just a reseller they don't make them)

yeah I agree theres no point welding it unless it's going to keep going another couple of years better to put a new one on

Seeing as local mob will put a bosal on for 160, well that's only 60 quid more than buying the cheap cat and the bosal probably is a better one than the internet one - bosal usually better than timax and the other aftermarket ones and bosal are the vaux oem for this car (and I'd have to fit the internet one)

I was hoping a couple of people would post saying something like "yeah I had it welded and it lasted 3-4 years" in which case welding would be worth a chance but from people's answers so far think I'll put the welding money towards a new one

I sure won't be getting the main dealer to do it tho ;-)
greebo2
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main dealer £425 parts and labour
local garage £160 same job
Siberia
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quote:
Originally posted by greebo2
main dealer £425 parts and labour
local garage £160 same job


tell me about it... the vaux garage around here wanted 800 euros just for the part hence why i bought it off that crowd 130 euros shipped to my front door
greebo2
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I read in this weeks autoexpress that a service on an audi A6 which is just and oil and filter change is £365 in london

so maybe vaux ain't so bad
mind you I haven't see the omega prices
goodfellow
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8th Sep 05 at 20:13   View User's Profile U2U Member Reply With Quote

my new cat cost me £65 from my local parts centre(CES) for the price i was expectin problems but none so far.

 
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