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Rob_Lee
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12th Dec 06 at 19:56   View User's Profile U2U Member Reply With Quote
Are they interchangable?

Rob

[Edited on 13-12-2006 by Rob_Lee]
Warren G
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as in are they the same size/ or different flow rates?

there are the same im 99% sure, why's that do you need any?
Rob_Lee
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I know they are the same size and they do fit but need to know if they have any differences with flow rate, resistance etc etc

Im trying to narrow down the overfueling probs
Warren G
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very much doubt it would be the injectors, what pressure reg you running?

any aftermarket ecu things?

could be air flow meter, coolant temp sensor, o2 sensor etc etc
Rob_Lee
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Ive had to replace injectors before due to being buggered and overfueling. Running standard pressure reg.

Already changed CTS, TPS, ICV

Wont be air flow sensor/lambda as was fine on old engine

[Edited on 12-12-2006 by Rob_Lee]
Warren G
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how bad are we talking? just runnig a bit rich, drinking fuel?
Rob_Lee
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pretty bad... 125 miles to a tank at worst.

It judders when hard acceleration and holds back!
Warren G
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sounds alot like a coolant temp sensor (just runs the engine on choke)

id recomend trying one of them first, just take one off any vauxhall - pretty such there all the same (astra/vectra etc)
Rob_Lee
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quote:
Originally posted by Rob_Lee

Already changed CTS, TPS, ICV



First thing a changed

[Edited on 12-12-2006 by Rob_Lee]
Warren G
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kk, didnt see that -

whats left! ECU?

o2 sensor/air flow meter - they might of become faulty
Robin
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with a brand new one?

I don't know about the injectors...

What ECU are you running?
Rob_Lee
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Standard ECU.

yeah changed for brand new CTS

Dont know what else could be... its using a lot of fuel and struggles if you accelerate hard. It will misfire, hold back and then if you let off throttle and then rev again it will clear
Warren G
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EML on at all?

could be a ECU, sounds strange, id said cooltemp but thats wrong!
Robin
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the cts could still be faulty, even if it is new...

or it could be wiring, but then the eml would be on.

I dunno what to suggest Rob, was it alright in the last car?

could be a gasket or something, or even the Lambda, but with no EML, it's just guess work, which gets costly
Rob_Lee
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might just sell it bloody novas!
Scotty C
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Air leak?
Robin
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quote:
Originally posted by Rob_Lee
might just sell it bloody novas!


£200?
Vaux Lad
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Maybe a stupid question but the EM light does work doesn't it? lol

Maybe see if you can borrow another air flow meter and try it, when i had a dodgy cts it just ran slightly rich, didn't cause it to misfire because of excess fuel.
Rob_Lee
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Gonna put the nova on emmisons test at lunch see what that comes up with.

Not air leak... checked that.

What about fooked lambda sensor?
Rob_Lee
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I know now why the EML doesnt work.

Its blanked off... on the digidash it has a black bit of film instead of the coloured transparant stuff!

Gonna take dash apart at lunch and sort it!

[Edited on 13-12-2006 by Rob_Lee]
Rob_Lee
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68
67
24
35
71
29


Got all these.... anyone got any ideas?

Thanks Rob`
PaulW
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68 - MAF Sensor Low Voltage - (Wiring short to earth, IAT Sensor, ECM)
67 - MAF Sensor Incorrect Signal - (Wiring, MAF Sensor, ECM)
24 - Vehicle Speed Sensor No Signal - (Wiring, VSS, ECM)
35 - Engine Control Module (ECM), Idle Speed Control, incorrect idle - (Intake or Fuel system fault)
71 - Intake Air Temperature Sensor, voltage high - (Wiring short to Positive, IAT Sensor Fault, ECM)
29 - Fuel Pump Relay Low Voltage - (Wiring short to earth, fuel pump relay, fuel pump, ECM)
Rob_Lee
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Earth fault somewhere???
PaulW
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possibly a bad earth yea, or something shorting & knockin quite a bit of stuff out...

be worth going over the wiring tbh, check the IAT sensor, and also if you do have a spare C16 ecu, see if that helps... given how many causes there could be the ecu, be worth checkin it out
Rob_Lee
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IAT?

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