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paulr202000
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6th Jan 07 at 19:49   View User's Profile U2U Member Reply With Quote

thinking of getting a new DVD player and want to know if anyone has a hdmi DVD player i have just got a 32" hd lcd tv and have read that these dvd players up graded your dvd picture to near hd quality.
has anyone got one if so are they any good been looking at a sony but dont know if it is worth the extra cash
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You want a proper HD Dvd player for HD quality and they are still expensive so god knows how much the recorders will be. You'll need to look at the DVD player specs as an upscaling version is not quite the same but will still use a HDMI connection I believe.
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no point upscaling a DVD, won't look any better than the original source. Just get a decent dvd player with component out (sperate RGB) and it'll be the best quality you're going to get
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What Dom said
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quote:
Originally posted by Dom
no point upscaling a DVD, won't look any better than the original source. Just get a decent dvd player with component out (sperate RGB) and it'll be the best quality you're going to get


Not quite true. If you have a HD LCD then there are two set ups possible

SD DVD Output -> TV Input -> TV Scaler -> LCD Panel
DVD Output -> DVD Scaler -> DVD Output -> LCD Panel

It all comes down to the quality of scalers. By default your TV scales all signals up to HD BUT if you get a good DVD player that upscales the scaler in it might be much better than the one in the tv.

A professionally upscaled DVD can look much better than using your bog-standard tvs scaler
Dom
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quote:
Originally posted by Rob_Quads
quote:
Originally posted by Dom
no point upscaling a DVD, won't look any better than the original source. Just get a decent dvd player with component out (sperate RGB) and it'll be the best quality you're going to get


Not quite true. If you have a HD LCD then there are two set ups possible

SD DVD Output -> TV Input -> TV Scaler -> LCD Panel
DVD Output -> DVD Scaler -> DVD Output -> LCD Panel

It all comes down to the quality of scalers. By default your TV scales all signals up to HD BUT if you get a good DVD player that upscales the scaler in it might be much better than the one in the tv.

A professionally upscaled DVD can look much better than using your bog-standard tvs scaler


No offence, but i dont think these 100 quid dvd players (like that samsung hdmi one) will have scalers that compare to say a sony or Kramer at 3 - 10k a pop.
Though im not saying that there won't be any differences that'll improve the image, but most of the time scalers in these dvd players are crap and make the image worse than better.

This is why plasmas are seen better for DVD content, lower resolutions (less to upscale), compared to LCDs which are more suited to HD content, high resolutions etc But thats another story
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can notice the difference with big screens. we were watching gladiator on a 50" plasma at work upscalled by hdmi... beautiful picture. not too sure on smaller screens though! but worth doing at the end of the day, might get a slight improvement!
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Plasma's have a smaller resolution vs the size, ie: a 40" Lcd will have a resolution of 1366 x 768 (there abouts) whereas at a similar size a plasma will only have a resolution of 1024 x 768. At 50, LCD is 1920x1200, Plasma's are usually around 1366 x 768.
*Pioneer plasma usually have lower resolutions compared to say a Panasonic or NEC plasma etc

That's ones of the reasons why DVDs look good on plasmas, as you only have to upscale from 720x576 (PAL DVD) to 1024 x 768, so less interpretation (adding bits of data that aren't there basically).

But yes, a decent upscaler like a Kramer would do wonders but then there just as much as buying a top end pioneer display

*figures may be wrong, as there from the top off my head!

 
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