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JM_16v
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10th Jul 08 at 12:47   View User's Profile U2U Member Reply With Quote

1). A redtop will not bodge into a nova with bodged gsi mounts
2) nova gsi shafts wont work in the gearbox
3) a standard F13 on a redtop is alot of work and will die within minutes

[Edited on 11-07-2008 by JM_16v]
rikkgti
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10th Jul 08 at 13:01   View User's Profile U2U Member Reply With Quote

quote:
Originally posted by JM_16v
someones been chatting bollox in my area
can you please confirm a simple yes/no will do.

1). A redtop will not bodge into a nova with bodged gsi mounts
2) nova gsi shafts wont work in the gearbox
3) a standard F13 on a redtop is alot of work and will die within minutes

yes u can use 2 mounts and make one
yes they will work
Possibly
johnhara1
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10th Jul 08 at 13:35   View User's Profile U2U Member Reply With Quote

1) Yes they will but 1 will have to be made
2) GSI shafts with inner big block CVs will fit big block gearboxes
3)It can be made to fit iirc and IMO It depends how you drive as to whether it lasts or not but launching it everywhere would most certainly kill it.
DaveB
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10th Jul 08 at 13:39   View User's Profile U2U Member Reply With Quote

How the fek will an F13 fit a big block engine? F16,f18,f20,f28 onto an XE, nothing else.
rikkgti
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quote:
Originally posted by DaveB
How the fek will an F13 fit a big block engine? F16,f18,f20,f28 onto an XE, nothing else.


i used a 1.2 box with a 1.5 td clucth
Dan295
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10th Jul 08 at 14:47   View User's Profile U2U Member Reply With Quote

quote:
Originally posted by rikkgti
quote:
Originally posted by DaveB
How the fek will an F13 fit a big block engine? F16,f18,f20,f28 onto an XE, nothing else.


i used a 1.2 box with a 1.5 td clucth


erm your medal is in the post
gazza808
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10th Jul 08 at 16:27   View User's Profile U2U Member Reply With Quote

you can use all the gsi mounts gotta chop one out and move it though
Vaux Lad
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10th Jul 08 at 16:36   View User's Profile U2U Member Reply With Quote

quote:
Originally posted by DaveB
How the fek will an F13 fit a big block engine? F16,f18,f20,f28 onto an XE, nothing else.

Lol, it does.
Bell housing is the same
You just need to mess with various clutches/flys to go the engine and box "tied" together.
rikkgti
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10th Jul 08 at 17:15   View User's Profile U2U Member Reply With Quote

quote:
Originally posted by Dan295
quote:
Originally posted by rikkgti
quote:
Originally posted by DaveB
How the fek will an F13 fit a big block engine? F16,f18,f20,f28 onto an XE, nothing else.




i used a 1.2 box with a 1.5 td clucth


erm your medal is in the post




Why dont u believe me
Limecat
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10th Jul 08 at 21:26   View User's Profile U2U Member Reply With Quote

quote:
Originally posted by JM_16v
someones been chatting bollox in my area
can you please confirm a simple yes/no will do.

1). A redtop will not bodge into a nova with bodged gsi mounts
2) nova gsi shafts wont work in the gearbox
3) a standard F13 on a redtop is alot of work and will die within minutes


1) Cut and move the wing mount down by 1.5" (circa 38mm)
2) Yes, they are 22 splined inners so use the Mk2 Cav 1.6 inner CV's (2 different types so make sure they have the same amount of male splines as the 'big block' inners)
3) Yes, if you have access to a a machine shop you can modify the flywheel to take a GTE pressure plate as they have a different number of bolt holes on a different PCD IIRC). As the guy said above, you are also supposed to be able to do it using diesel bits?
rikkgti
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10th Jul 08 at 21:32   View User's Profile U2U Member Reply With Quote

quote:
Originally posted by LETGSI16V
quote:
Originally posted by JM_16v
someones been chatting bollox in my area
can you please confirm a simple yes/no will do.

1). A redtop will not bodge into a nova with bodged gsi mounts
2) nova gsi shafts wont work in the gearbox
3) a standard F13 on a redtop is alot of work and will die within minutes


1) Cut and move the wing mount down by 1.5" (circa 38mm)
2) Yes, they are 22 splined inners so use the Mk2 Cav 1.6 inner CV's (2 different types so make sure they have the same amount of male splines as the 'big block' inners)
3) Yes, if you have access to a a machine shop you can modify the flywheel to take a GTE pressure plate as they have a different number of bolt holes on a different PCD IIRC). As the guy said above, you are also supposed to be able to do it using diesel bits?


Why Thank U XXX
Ste L
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10th Jul 08 at 21:53   View User's Profile U2U Member Reply With Quote

nova GSI shafts wont work, as they are not 22 spline shafts, it's very rare to find them on a gsi, usually on the very very very early one's only..

it's GTE's and TD's that you get the 22 spline's on


and on cutting and welding the chassis mount lower, this only work's, when using a big block mk2 astra mount, not a nova mount

[Edited on 10-07-2008 by Ste L]
Limecat
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10th Jul 08 at 22:11   View User's Profile U2U Member Reply With Quote

quote:
Originally posted by Ste L
nova GSI shafts wont work, as they are not 22 spline shafts, it's very rare to find them on a gsi, usually on the very very very early one's only..

it's GTE's and TD's that you get the 22 spline's on


and on cutting and welding the chassis mount lower, this only work's, when using a big block mk2 astra mount, not a nova mount

[Edited on 10-07-2008 by Ste L]


Sorry mate, forgot to add that part so cheers! Thats how my old grot box Nova XE was done which was amongst the earliest to be converted as far as I know?

On the shafts, not a clue on how common they are but we 100% used them from a GSI conversion (on a J/K IIRC?) with Mk2 inners and there are a handul of GSI's on a G plate I believe just as a few GTE's on an H? (possibly a J?)
sand-eel
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11th Jul 08 at 12:12   View User's Profile U2U Member Reply With Quote

What is the point of bodging mounts if they only cost about £30!!!
RossyB
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11th Jul 08 at 16:24   View User's Profile U2U Member Reply With Quote

I got 1.2 box on my c20xe, ratios are crazy.
Ste L
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11th Jul 08 at 17:05   View User's Profile U2U Member Reply With Quote

quote:
Originally posted by sand-eel
What is the point of bodging mounts if they only cost about £30!!!



it's not a bodge, it's very comment on xe nova's, doing while your welding the shell take no more effort really
JM_16v
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11th Jul 08 at 19:12   View User's Profile U2U Member Reply With Quote

quote:
Originally posted by sand-eel
What is the point of bodging mounts if they only cost about £30!!!

from where
Ben ev
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11th Jul 08 at 21:03   View User's Profile U2U Member Reply With Quote

quote:
Originally posted by Ste L
quote:
Originally posted by sand-eel
What is the point of bodging mounts if they only cost about £30!!!



it's not a bodge, it's very comment on xe nova's, doing while your welding the shell take no more effort really


agreed. whats the difference between you making a mount and paying some other chimp to do it
sand-eel
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11th Jul 08 at 22:56   View User's Profile U2U Member Reply With Quote

well pay a small amount of money and get them posted or get metal, measure, cut, weld. i'm just saying it seems easier to me.

 
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