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Mr Turner
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24th Nov 08 at 12:02   View User's Profile U2U Member Reply With Quote

just fitted a new inlet manifold and found the car to be much better, it also pulls harder when it gets to around 5,000 revs, where as before you could feel it pull from around 4,000 revs, i like the way it pulls now but seems to be to high in the revs as it hits the limiter and feels like it could still keep pulling, has anyone else found this ?

thanks
sean
johnhara1
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24th Nov 08 at 12:07   View User's Profile U2U Member Reply With Quote

This is widely reported among the Inlet users.

Most recommend you get the rev limit raised now.
gez bay
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24th Nov 08 at 12:08   View User's Profile U2U Member Reply With Quote

get the limiter raised to 7200rmp there abouts.
Mr Turner
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24th Nov 08 at 12:09   View User's Profile U2U Member Reply With Quote

ah rite, i thought about that, how would i go about that and also whats a sensable limit with a standard engine, its a 1.4 16v
gez bay
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24th Nov 08 at 12:21   View User's Profile U2U Member Reply With Quote

7200 is probably the best to go for to see the gains, and its still sorta safe for the engine.. its only being raised about 800rpm so nothing to worrie about
Scotty C
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24th Nov 08 at 12:25   View User's Profile U2U Member Reply With Quote

You WILL need ARP rod bolts if you raise the limter to 7.2k. I'm sure you dont want a rod through the block...
joes_1.4_16v_sport
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24th Nov 08 at 12:33   View User's Profile U2U Member Reply With Quote

quote:
Originally posted by Scatt
You WILL need ARP rod bolts if you raise the limter to 7.2k. I'm sure you dont want a rod through the block...



Whats the diference?

Longer?


I dont know these things you see...


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Ellis
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quote:
Originally posted by joes_1.4_16v_sport
quote:
Originally posted by Scatt
You WILL need ARP rod bolts if you raise the limter to 7.2k. I'm sure you dont want a rod through the block...



Whats the diference?

Longer?


I dont know these things you see...


Joe
Tensile strength at a guess
gez bay
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24th Nov 08 at 12:50   View User's Profile U2U Member Reply With Quote

sorry! forgot to mention that too. my bad. id advise that aswel. they're about £60. they're the same size as standard just stronger and you can re use them when you pull them out.
gez bay
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24th Nov 08 at 12:51   View User's Profile U2U Member Reply With Quote

the arp bolts wont snap from the vibration of the engine, make the engine more reliable then
Scotty C
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24th Nov 08 at 12:53   View User's Profile U2U Member Reply With Quote

They need to be 'counter sunk' in IIRC...

It's not a in - out job!
Ellis
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quote:
Originally posted by Scatt
They need to be 'counter sunk' in IIRC...

It's not a in - out job!
I think you're right chief
Vaux Lad
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quote:
Originally posted by Scatt
You WILL need ARP rod bolts if you raise the limter to 7.2k. I'm sure you dont want a rod through the block...

"Should" be fine at 7200rpm in short bursts with standard bolts imo.

Above that though, or revving hard for a long time and definently fit arp's
Mr Turner
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24th Nov 08 at 18:02   View User's Profile U2U Member Reply With Quote

ok lads, cheers for the comments
RED~GRIFFIN
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24th Nov 08 at 18:08   View User's Profile U2U Member Reply With Quote

To be fair though for the price of a replacement block. There only worth it if the bottom end has had work done
Scotty C
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quote:
Originally posted by Vaux Lad
quote:
Originally posted by Scatt
You WILL need ARP rod bolts if you raise the limter to 7.2k. I'm sure you dont want a rod through the block...

"Should" be fine at 7200rpm in short bursts with standard bolts imo.

Above that though, or revving hard for a long time and definently fit arp's


For the sake of £60 it isn't really worth the risk, is it?
Scotty C
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24th Nov 08 at 18:52   View User's Profile U2U Member Reply With Quote

Plus, if you're revving to 7.2k in 4th, 5th it'll be at 6,500rpm - 7,200rpm for quite a long time!!
Kenzie
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24th Nov 08 at 19:59   View User's Profile U2U Member Reply With Quote

How hard is it to fit the ARP's bolts, as ive got one of the said inlets, and am considering raising the limiter to 7500.
20valver
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25th Nov 08 at 22:30   View User's Profile U2U Member Reply With Quote

you could get the con rods shot peened
luke85
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25th Nov 08 at 22:39   View User's Profile U2U Member Reply With Quote

Ran mine to 7300 for about 2 years and never had a problem on standard bolts. Not saying ARPs are a bad idea but they are not a must. If they are not astraight swap I wouldnt bother, the chance of standard ones failing is quite small IMO and even if you were VERY unlucky the engines are cheap enough
Mr Turner
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i am just considering what to do, if i did raise the rev limit, what ways are there of doin this without an aftermarket ecu.

thanks
sean
Sean-B
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26th Nov 08 at 22:23   View User's Profile U2U Member Reply With Quote

would also like to know this
luke85
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27th Nov 08 at 08:17   View User's Profile U2U Member Reply With Quote

A unichip lets the tuner set the rev limit to whatever you like but its about £500 by the time youve had it mapped. other than that a superchip also raises the limit but not sure what to
Pete_vxl
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27th Nov 08 at 12:01   View User's Profile U2U Member Reply With Quote

if you can get hold of the cd that comes with the dbilas inlet that raises your limiter.
Kenzie
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27th Nov 08 at 17:11   View User's Profile U2U Member Reply With Quote

They come with a CD?

So you mean it has software on it for raising the rev limiter, via the diagnostics port?


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[Edited on 27-11-2008 by Kenzie]

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