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The untouchables: United get away with it again after reprieves for Ronaldo and Rooney
By Tim Nichols
Last updated at 6:50 PM on 15th December 2008
What a surprise. Manchester 'Teflon' United get away with it again.
Cristiano Ronaldo and Wayne Rooney have both escaped bans for blatant indiscipline from two pathetically weak organisations - the FA and UEFA.
The FA kicked things off, deciding not to take any action against Ronaldo for blatantly kicking out at Tottenham's Michael Dawson on Saturday. Laughably, referee Mike Dean reviewed footage of the incident and claimed he wouldn't have sent off the Portuguese winker anyway.
If that's the case, Dean should never referee another game of football. Ronaldo clearly kicks Dawson off the ball - unquestionably a red card offence. Remember David Beckham's tame flick at Diego Simeone at the 1998 World Cup? Only the most blinkered England fan would argue against Kim Milton Neilsen's decision in St. Etienne that saw Beckham rightly sent off. The two offences are all but identical.
 Petulant: Ronaldo swipes at Dawson - an incident missed by referee Dean
There is absolutely no doubt that Ronaldo should have received his second red card of the season at White Hart Lane. So why didn't the FA act? Could it be because of the fuss Alex Ferguson made when Ronaldo was sent off at Manchester City last month? The irascible United boss somehow managed to keep a straight face when defending Ronaldo's handball in the Manchester derby, claiming his star player was trying to protect his face! Or was it that he was pushed? Or did he hear a whistle? Fergie seemed unable to make up his mind, but was certain about one thing - United had been victimised again.
 Fuss: Ronaldo got his marching orders (below) for this handball against Manchester City
 Only idiots - or United fans - nodded in agreement. If there's one club that get all the decisions, all the luck and all the injury-time ('Fergie time') they want to score that vital winner or equaliser, it's United.
And yet, Ferguson seems to think the world (and his dog, no doubt) is against his club. When full-back Patrice Evra received an FA ban last week for brawling on the Stamford Bridge pitch, Ferguson responded to the suspension with a quite wonderful quote.
 Chuckling: Sir Alex celebrates as United get away with it - again
He said: 'After all the things the FA have done to us down the years that was one of their biggest. I could not believe it.'
Tremendous. The Premier League pensioner must have chuckled away to himself at that one.
But compared to the ineptitude consistently shown by UEFA, European football's spineless governing body, the FA appear mildly competent.
UEFA'S failure to punish Wayne Rooney for stamping on Aalborg's Kasper Risgaard really is baffling.
Had it been Risgaard on Rooney, the Dane would probably have received a two game ban and missed both legs of Aalborg's UEFA Cup last 32 tie.
But seeming as United are defending champions of Europe and Rooney is one of the star names in the competition, UEFA have brushed the incident under the carpet.
 Crunch time: Rooney makes contact with Risgaard, and the guilty look says it all (below)
 The funny thing about Rooney's latest show of petulance is that it wasn't even his worst moment of indiscipline in that match. His challenge on Michael Jakobsen was pre-mediated, cynical and completely indefensible.
The United man has no interest in reaching the ball first, instead focusing his attention on the Danish defender. Rooney's 'challenge' on Jakobsen was nothing short of a disgrace and undoubtedly deserved a ban. He makes absolutely no attempt to play the ball, preferring to kick out at an opponent rather than win possession.
If Rooney was on the receiving end of such a challenge during next summer's World Cup there would be uproar. But ofcourse, Fergie blames the media for highlighting the incident. You couldn't make it up.
Ferguson can prattle on all he likes about how his club and players are victimised, but any football fan with a modicum of sense knows the first rule of football.
One rule for United, another for the rest.
[Edited on 16-12-2008 by Cosmo]
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He seems a very bitter man
The Rooney stamp wasn't intentional imo, he wouldnt have been able to move his foot away, wasn't exactly if he stamped as hard as he could, he was just putting his foot on the ground and the defender was in the way
The Evra incident is a fucking joke, suspected racist abuse and he gets a four match ban
Onto Ronaldo, the guy is a grade a tosser, and deserves a ban for his kicking out which he has done at least 3 times this season
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*Yawn* Change the record.
Evra getting a 4 match ban for a 50/50 confrontation off the pitch is a complete farce. As for Rooney and Ronaldo the decisions weren't made on the day so in my opinion it has to be left. Either we are going to have video refereeing in which case we can start trawling through every misdemeanour made by players in every fixture or we don't and we accept that mistakes are sometimes made.
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I actually agree that Rooney didnt stamp on him intentionally - but the other two challenges (the lunge and the elbows) were both shocking.
Chris - we do have video refs where the referee misses the actual incident, and have for years. The ref cannot possibly see everything that goes on so in these situations the FA then decide via video if anything should happen. Whats shocking in this case is the fact Mike Dean has now seen it on vid and decided he wouldnt of sent him off - now thats a fucking joke tbh.
And in regards to Evra - what he did was a s bad as what Cantona did, although Evra made less contact. He reacted to abuse in a way he shouldnt and whilst I agree he should of got the abuse in the first place and maybe in a better world he'd have the right to smack the fella, he is paid top money not to react.
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quote:
Originally posted by Cosmo
And in regards to Evra - what he did was a s bad as what Cantona did, although Evra made less contact. He reacted to abuse in a way he shouldnt and whilst I agree he should of got the abuse in the first place and maybe in a better world he'd have the right to smack the fella, he is paid top money not to react.
 no it wasn't
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Originally posted by Cosmo
And in regards to Evra - what he did was a s bad as what Cantona did, although Evra made less contact. He reacted to abuse in a way he shouldnt and whilst I agree he should of got the abuse in the first place and maybe in a better world he'd have the right to smack the fella, he is paid top money not to react.
no it wasn't
Not in the physical harm department, but if he wasnt such a pussy getting held back then it would of been.
I more mean in the fact he was reacting with violence to taunts from a non-player.
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quote:
Originally posted by Cosmo
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Originally posted by Nath
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Originally posted by Cosmo
And in regards to Evra - what he did was a s bad as what Cantona did, although Evra made less contact. He reacted to abuse in a way he shouldnt and whilst I agree he should of got the abuse in the first place and maybe in a better world he'd have the right to smack the fella, he is paid top money not to react.
no it wasn't
Not in the physical harm department, but if he wasnt such a pussy getting held back then it would of been.
I more mean in the fact he was reacting with violence to taunts from a non-player.
....... It's like when in school when you got in a fight. If your mates are holding you back you can up the abuse to look like you was about to do some damage.
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We've all been there
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I'll read it properly later!
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Also i heard the other day that Ronaldo is suspended (because of the City incident) for the Carling Cup, a game that he would of been rested for anyway.
Not seen either of the incidents mentioned here, but i wasn't suprised to see united get away with the indiscipline.
Especially as it was the same day they said they weren't going to appeal the Evra decision
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I fucking hate Man United and I hate Ferguson the smug twat even more.
Someone shoot the twat.
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If i was him id be smug, hes got good reasons to be smug
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Because his team cheat their way to titles?
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lol its hardly like theyve cheated their way to every title he has ever won is it....
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Originally posted by Cosmo
I actually agree that Rooney didnt stamp on him intentionally - but the other two challenges (the lunge and the elbows) were both shocking.
Agreed 
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Originally posted by Ojc
Because his team cheat their way to titles?
Bitter, jealous, typical small club fan 
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Also i heard the other day that Ronaldo is suspended (because of the City incident) for the Carling Cup, a game that he would of been rested for anyway.
There was nothing dodgy about that suspension, two yellows result in a one match ban for the very next game played in english football, it just luckily fell on a game which he was highly unlikely to play any part
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I actually agree that Rooney didnt stamp on him intentionally - but the other two challenges (the lunge and the elbows) were both shocking.
Still on about the Aalborg game? I was at that match and yes he should have been sent off for what he did, but unfortunately what he did was a reaction to a blatent kick he got earlier in the match and being a petulant little scouse badger he retaliated,stupid move but footballers aren't the wisest people around
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quote:
Originally posted by Cosmo
I actually agree that Rooney didnt stamp on him intentionally - but the other two challenges (the lunge and the elbows) were both shocking.
Chris - we do have video refs where the referee misses the actual incident, and have for years. The ref cannot possibly see everything that goes on so in these situations the FA then decide via video if anything should happen. Whats shocking in this case is the fact Mike Dean has now seen it on vid and decided he wouldnt of sent him off - now thats a fucking joke tbh.
Fair enough
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BEckham's kick out at Simone was in 1998, bloody hell knocking on 10 years.
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Originally posted by strick206
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Originally posted by Ojc
Because his team cheat their way to titles?
Bitter, jealous, typical small club fan
Small club? Hardly.
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Originally posted by Ojc
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Originally posted by strick206
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Originally posted by Ojc
Because his team cheat their way to titles?
Bitter, jealous, typical small club fan
Small club? Hardly.
Have you stopped supporting Ipswich?
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He supports Reading doesn't he? 
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Originally posted by Ojc
Because his team cheat their way to titles?
what a pathetic comment, if only people like you put as much effort into supporting your own team as you do in hating united
as has been said,its a typical "abu" small time attitude you have
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