ash-ov-boro
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i dont know a thing about spraying but i want to get to know the in's & the out,s
is there any good guides out there for it or books or dvd's or something ..
or anyone on here who wants to help me out at all .. would be a good guide for other people wanting to learn too
any help muchly aprechiated
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ash-ov-boro
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come on lad's its the new year give the beginers a break  learn us something new even if every one could add a little bit maybe even point me in the direction of tutorials or a spay forums im also on mig an currently reading the welding & painting section
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corsa120
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hope this helps googled it
would take too long to tell you everything i can't be bothered lol
http://www.diy-compressors.com/spraying/index.htm
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ash-ov-boro
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cheers corsa120 greathelp :thumns: anyone else ?
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ash-ov-boro
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had a good read tonight starting to understand a little now but it wouldnt go a miss for some one to give me a few tips what paints..thinners..hardners ect that will be needed >>corsa120<< cheers for the link
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jibjob
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It all depends on the paint mate. Metallic, flat, flip... Best thing you could do is read all the guides you can find on the internet, learn the basics of getting even coats with spray cans, get the right equipment first time (decent gravity fed gun, big compressor, space heater, breathing mask, proper setup area with good lighting and dust free). Then to learn everything about the different types of paint go to your local paint shop (where you buy it from) and ask about everything. They work with it day in day out so know everything there is to know so its worth asking. Also its all in the preperation, if you have a good surface to start with the paint will be a better finish! Go to proper paint shops though not halfords or motor factors! Its never a branded product so there wont be a name for it you just ask for a colour, type of paint and how much you want e.g. vauxhall flame red, 2 pack paint, 5 litres. Thinners is just called thinners
Quick step by step guide though depending on what youre painting:
- Sand item down with finer and finer grade paper
- wash with warm soapy water
- leave to dry
- check the item over thoroughly to make sure its all smooth and flat
- if its not then re-sand it and re-wash it
- Leave item in a heated room so the items become warm so the paint sticks better
- wipe down with tack rags and leave for a while to dry again
- spray primer on in medium thickness coats at about 20cm away from the item
- its better to do more coats than one thick coat!
- Leave to dry in the heated room again (heat speeds it up drying)
- Wash thinners around the gun and spray through to clean it thoroughly
- mix paint (depending on the paint it varies)
- Spray the paint 20cm away with medium coats again
- Leave in the heated room again (longer the better at this stage)
- wash more thinners through the gun
- After atleast 24hours check dryness on a small hidden patch
- If its dry you want wet and dry paper a really fine grade and a bucket of warm really soapy water
- sand down the item using the wet and dry paper and water
- this will remove all the small lumps bumps and also remove the orange peel effect
- be careful of raising edges, creases or areas where the paint will get easily rubbed off due to being raised
- now you want a good cutting compound and preferably an electric polisher
- polish the item to give it a shine again
- and finally give a polish with a decent polish or wax to give it a really good shine and lasting protection
Hope this helps mate! But practise makes perfect!
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ash-ov-boro
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JIBJOB thanks everly so much matey glad some one took the time to get me off to a start what about the lacquering process.. also i been told not to wet & dry the paint as i will be spraying arden blue ..?
alls im going to be spraying is the 4 plastic arches,the front bumper where its not arden blue at the top & the same with the rear bumper all small parts really that im doing or yeah and door handles & mirrors and maybe more after learning
This is the compressor im thinking about to get me started and as things progress & i get the hang of things i will be buying better spray guns ect: and will be practicing on old parts first maybe even go to the local breakers/scrappy and get some plastic parts & a few wings or somit to practice on.. well anyways peeps going to have a little look on google too so thanks and as i said any help is muchly apreachiated jibjob corsa120
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ash-ov-boro
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http://www.ukhs.tv/cat/AirCom/apache.html
Forgoten link my bad 
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Ant B
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hi mate that commpressor in the link you posted is ideal to start of with,may i ask tho what website you foud that on as i need another compressor and thats a faly good one
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ash-ov-boro
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its on ukhs.com or co.uk ukhomeshopping its called
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ash-ov-boro
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so how much do you know on spraying then ant b? let us know a few tricks of thetrade fella ..
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Root
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you forgot to mention lacquer?
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ash-ov-boro
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me ? i said paint,thinners,hardners ect thought you would have guessed i wanted to clear/lacquer
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jibjob
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Lacquers the biggest ball ache of all time! If it runs it'll strip the paint youve just put on and you have to sand it off and start again! Id suggest a lot of practise with lacquer first mate. To be honest though if you take your time doing the actual painting isnt that hard, its all in the prep work and finishing.
Edit: that guide was only a rough one anyway
[Edited on 04-01-2010 by jibjob]
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ash-ov-boro
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when i get compressor jibjob hope u dont mind me u2u'ing you do you...
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jibjob
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nah no problem at all mate. Im not an expert or anything but i know the principles pretty well and have had a go a few times. I never spray that much so never bought my own equipment or anything just used other peoples
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ash-ov-boro
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cheers mate..
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ash-ov-boro
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what psi should i be spraying primers at what psi should i be spraying base/colour & clear/lacquer
anyone know anywhere cheap for arden blue paint ... thinners...lacquer..primer
when colour sanding can i sand arden blue or not as ive heard it disturbs the metalic flakes in the paint or something
or do i just sand after clear .. ??
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Terry12
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You don't sand the paint mate. Lacquer over the metallic paint then wet sand with 1200 or 1500 if required.
Machine polishing will get out most slight defects though.
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ash-ov-boro
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i not long ago sprayed my arches from a tin and it seemed it turned out a lot lighter thats why im hoping i can get it right with a compressor
any one know the psi i should be spraying the differnt paints at
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ash-ov-boro
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also had a dimple type effect in the paint could be due to the cold anyone know what this coukd be it didnt look like orange peel .. will try and get pics
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ash-ov-boro
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anyone else have any tips for me ... come on tell me somemore before i buy one expectin to buy a compressor by Monday.
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ash-ov-boro
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ttt
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DaveyLC
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If you want to use it for painting you need something with a big receiver, anything under 50 litres will drive you insane waiting for it to re-fill every few seconds! 100 litres is just about right..
Best thing to do is look out for a second hand hydrovane compressor they are far more efficient than piston compressors and much quieter..
http://cgi.ebay.co.uk/hydrovane-single-phase-compressor_W0QQitemZ300383362751QQcmdZViewItemQQptZUK_Air_Tools_and_Compressors?hash=item45f03e5ebf
Well worth spending £300-500 on something like that!
I built my own hybrid: 25 litre receiver and a 2.5kw powered hydrovane:
I use it for painting at home.
[Edited on 08-01-2010 by DaveyLC]
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ash-ov-boro
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its only for doing arches,bumper where its black mirrors small stuff like that ect:
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