Dr Pepper
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Registered: 21st Sep 02
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Right- GOING TO SWAP MY ENGINE WITHIN NEXT YEAR- hAVE GOT PRICES FOR 2L CONVERSION BUT AM NOW SERIOUSLY CONSIDERING 1.6 16V ECOTEC CONVERSION. I AM THINKING THIS WILL BE LESS OF A SHOCK TO MY INSURANCE COMPANY, MORE RELIABLE, NEED LESS BODY STRENGTHENING, AND WILL STILL ALLOW ME TO GET THROTTLE BODIES AND OTHER BITS AND PIECES- WHAT I WANT TO KNOW IS.......
1- How much do you think this conversion will cost(drive in and out- and just engine, i can do all other neccesary upgrades myself
2-Will it in theory be more reliable than 2L
3-What bhp is this going to give me as standard
4-what bhp could it potentially reach with chip and tb ect(I know Patrick is selling one which is 226bhp)
5-how much do tb`s cost to buy and get fitted
WOULD REALLY APPRECIATE OPPINIONS FROM THOSE WHO HAVE HAD ENGINE SWAPS, OR DO THEM. ITS YOUR FEEDBACK WHICH IS GOING TO MAKE UP MY MIND AS WELL AS THAT OF MY INSURANCS COMPANY
ps- i am 21 currently driving 1.2ls with 2 years no claims which is why i like idea of 1.6 and then building power up as my no claims increase
IM SURE THERE ARE LOTS OF PEOPLE ON HERE WANTING THESE ANSWERS AND IT MAKES A CHANGE FROM "WHERE DO I DRILL MY AIRBOX"
CHEERS PEOPLE  
[Edited on 19-03-2003 by Dr Pepper]
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Kris TD
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just get a 2l it will cost the same on insurance and doing it.
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Kris TD
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oh patricks is 170 bhp, its only 220 with nos.
but i very much doubt it will actually be 220 with the nos, those 50 bhp jets dont actually give anywhere near 50 bhp.
[Edited on 19-03-2003 by Kris TD]
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and-m
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Registered: 5th May 02
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TBs are 2k + fitting for the 2.0
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Dr Pepper
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KRIS TD- are you sure 2l and 1.6 will cost the same- definately wont be same to insure- only with liv vic
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Adam_B
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Ive been quoted £3500 for a red top and £2000 for the 1.6. Both 'drive in and out jobs' as u put it 
i think SBD do throttle body kits, cant remember prices and power gains tho ! http://www.sbdev.co.uk/
[Edited on 20-03-2003 by Adam_B]
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Kris TD
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mate, u can get a redtop put in for 1k, beardy on here does it. the engines only cost like 300 quid.
exactly, get insured with liverpool vic.
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Adam_B
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Gonna have a go at the 1.6 swap myself
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Kris TD
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if your doing it ureself u may aswell put in a valver, the engines are cheaper anyway.
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Dr Pepper
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sorry to be thick but by red top do you mean 2l 16v?
Adam B- Where did you get those quotes and is that with gearbox brakes ect?
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Kris TD
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red top is the 150 bhp 2l, ecotec is the 136 bhp 2l. redtop is much more tunable too.
beardy will do the lot fitted for a grand mate, send him a u2u
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Dr Pepper
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anybody who has a conversion- opinions?
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Adam_B
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Thats what i meant either the c16 or x16xe.
The quotes were from PVD for the 2 litre and Regal for the 1.6 16v. Im pretty sure it includes everything engine wise (not brakes)
[Edited on 20-03-2003 by Adam_B]
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Kris TD
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dont use pvd. they dont do it themselves. they use cossvaux it will be cheaper if u contact them direct.
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Cybermonkey
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Will be hard for you to find a c16xe as it was quite a rare engine. The x16xe pushes out 106bhp as standard. the c16xe being 109bhp and much more willing to tune. My advice to you is to go with the 2.0. There is no point getting the 1.6 as you may as well buy a second hand GSi or Sport, will be much less hassle and cheaper. So if you are dead cert on the engine conversion, get the 20xe dropped in, an f20 gearbox, Astra GTE brakes incl calipers and stiffer suspension. One of these off the shelf kits is worth bearing in mind since they contain all the parts needed for a conversion.
Dave
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Dr Pepper
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Registered: 21st Sep 02
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I currently have spax 40mm spring and damper kit on, 15" alloys- would this be sufficiant to take the extra weight of a 2l
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Cybermonkey
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yeah should be fine, get some decent rubber if you havent all ready, 2.0 engine mounts from someone who makes them for corsas, like PVD or Regal. What brakes do you have now?
Dave
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dragoncorsa
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Registered: 2nd May 02
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im doin the 1.6 16v conversion mate its ok 4 power and insurance wont rape u either!
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d0gz_bollox
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cost me £50 extra to go from a 1.4 8v to a 2ltr 16v fully comp. That was with 1years driving experience, 1 years ncb 5 points for speeding, that was at 20yrs old.
If your going for a small block conversion (1.2 -> 1.6) then do it yourself. Hire an engine hoist for the weekend (£30) a cheap toolset (£50), couple of cans of wd40 and a big breaker bar (£30), oh and dont forget the haynes (£15). Its a near enough a straight swap. and a good experiencE!
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dragoncorsa
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except for u have 2 change the whole wirin set up!
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Dr Pepper
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cybermonkey- at the mo I just have standard breaks, have been advised to upgrade to astra gte breaks- what would you recommend
dOgz_bollox- Havnt really got space on my drive or garage to do conversion myself- Would much rather have it done by pro
WHERE IS CROSSVAUX SITUATED
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Adam_B
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think its in sheffield, or is that someone else !
Whats it like living with a 2 litre every day ? I have to drive to college and then to work pretty much everyday, so it has to be reliable and preferably not drink like a fish.
Y got me thinkin now !
[Edited on 20-03-2003 by Adam_B]
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Dr Pepper
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ttt-
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Dr Pepper
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TTT
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