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Author Just ordered a new Synology DS1511+
Bart
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Synology DS1511+
Synologys new flagship NAS storage unit.

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CPU Frequency: 1.8GHz, Dual Core
Memory: 3GB DDR2 (ive purchased additional ram)

*165.91 MB/sec Writing, 197.8 MB/sec Reading
*Windows® ADS and ACL support
*iSCSI Support as Virtualization Solution
*Scale up to 15 Drives with Synology DX510
*Expandable RAM Size (up to 3GB)
*2 LAN with Failover and Link Aggregation Support
*Hot-swappable Hard Drive Design



Capable of accepting 5x 3TB disks.
I currently have 5x 1TB Western Digital RE3's as I had them laying around at home and will slowly but surely swap out with 3TB disks as the cash becomes available.

Cant wait to get it...







Slightly overkill, but ive already outgrown my current Synology CS407 which is a 4TB (raid 5) cubesation, (only 3TB available in the Raid Setup).
My CS407 will be demoted to photo storage and documents, while the DS1511 will be purely video.



[Edited on 02-01-2011 by Bart]
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Why does it need 3GB RAM?

My home built Linux server uses an Athlon 1600+ CPU with 1GB RAM, and according to Webmin it uses sod all RAM. Does it need a lot of RAM for video streaming I assume (sorry if this question sounds stupid, I don't stream videos!).

Has a RAID1 array with a couple of 250GB HDDs.
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Bart if you consider selling the 407, I'll take it off your hands.
Dom
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Decent kit, but £650+ for a NAS box is a bit
Bart
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It will use more ram depending on how many other services will be running, iTunes, dnla, photostation etc
I plan to use as little services as possible, but for £40 it's a no brainer.

It is a little on the pricey side, but in the last 5 years synology have remotely logged in to fix and rebuild a broken raid5 array for free, that sort of customer service is worth every penny.
And to be fair it's aimed and small businesses, not home users.

[Edited on 02-01-2011 by Bart]
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What's cost £40?

Awesome piece of kit! I've had my ds210j for a few months and LOVE it, but am already considering a 5 bay syno to allow more movie storage, just like yourself
John
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As you've said, complete overkill, anything network connected with the enough space would do.
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Why not just get a base unit? Loads cheaper
moka
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A dual core NAS? Why?
£650+? Why?

As said by yourself and John, completeeee! overkill.

I picked up an Intel SS4200 NAS for £100 last year and chucked Ubuntu server on it... Upgraded it to 2GB ram and running win server 2008 virtualised and it runs like a dream... Its also acting as a web, file, ssh, sftp, squeezebox, and download server and barely goes over 10% CPU (1.6ghz)... You could also upgrade this to dual core...

Has 4 sata bays (and also enough space for another laptop ide which im running ubuntu off).

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quote:
Originally posted by moka
A dual core NAS? Why?
£650+? Why?

As said by yourself and John, completeeee! overkill.


Why? Because its incredibly precious to me, I want warranties, I want support and I want something that just works.
I want to know that if I ever get any problems with it, loose any precious family photos etc I have free support that will remote it and fix problems.

I dont want to be upgrading drives, software and windows updates, I just want it to work.
The other attraction is in the simplicity and lack of 'coupled together hardware' that you'll find in a PC.
If your on a budget I can see why a PC would be more attractive, but as im not, I want something better (imo).

On a different note, Ive finished setting it up and gradually copying my videos over.
Ive just completed a speed test and its staggeringly different.

A 1GB file from my PC to my old NAS takes 1 minute 40 secs. On the new nas it takes 11 seconds


[Edited on 07-01-2011 by Bart]
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If you properly lost anything the support would end.
Bart
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quote:
Originally posted by John
If you properly lost anything the support would end.


what do you mean?
John
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They'll remote in and help you rebuild an array or something like that, if something catastrophic enough for you to have actually lost everything on it they'd be quoting t&c's that say it's not their problem.
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quote:
Originally posted by Bart
A 1GB file from my PC to my old NAS takes 1 minute 40 secs. On the new nas it takes 11 seconds
[Edited on 07-01-2011 by Bart]


You're a f*cking cock!
Now I really want something faster than my ds210j
Bart
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quote:
Originally posted by John
They'll remote in and help you rebuild an array or something like that, if something catastrophic enough for you to have actually lost everything on it they'd be quoting t&c's that say it's not their problem.


completely wrong, and this is where the money pays for it.

I bought my first nas CS407 from ebay second hand and purchased 4 Samsung spinpoint F1's (the worst mistake ive ever made).
I setup the NAS, copied all photos from PCs and external drives to it, along with a few videos.
The following month, one of the HDDs failed. I swapped it out on RMA, inserted the replaced HDD and began a rebuild. Half way though the rebuild a second disk failed and completly lost the raid array.

I tried various things and got nowhere with it, the HDDs appeared to be dead.
I contacted synology and they remotely telnet'ed in and took a look and wasnt able to do anything remote.
They then arranged a courrier to pickup my Synology along with all the disks and shipped to China. They played around for a few days, recovered all data, replaced with identical hard drives and shipped the nas back ALL FREE of charge. They didnt ask to see any reciepts, any questions of where it was bought from.

TBH, Id rather spend £600 on a NAS with support than £250 on a PC without.

quote:
Originally posted by stubs
You're a f*cking cock!
Now I really want something faster than my ds210j


I really didnt expect the different to be that much, but then the hardware specs is quite different;

quote:
CS407
CPU: 500Mhz single Core
RAM: 128MB

DS1511
CPU: 1.8ghz Dual Core
RAM: 3GB DDR2




[Edited on 07-01-2011 by Bart]
John
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Fair enough.
Dom
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Out of curiousity, how long do they support the unit? And what's the cover on data recovery?
Bart
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quote:
Originally posted by Dom
Out of curiousity, how long do they support the unit? And what's the cover on data recovery?


I have no idea about the support length, or the data recovery?
Im not paying any extra for it.

I've had the Synology CS407 for almost 5 years and it was second hand one I purchased it.
Two of the samsungs failed again last month (twice in 5 years) and they again remotely logged in without asking any questions about purchase.

This Thread here backs up what I've said above, any problems what so ever, they simply ask for remote support.
Ive never questioned it just incase

[Edited on 07-01-2011 by Bart]
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quote:
Originally posted by John
Fair enough.


John in backing down shocker!!!!!

*faints*
ed
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Just got my Netgear ReadyNAS Duo up and running. Your setup looks like a beast compared to it!
Bart
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Some of the ReadyNas's are quite highly regarded.
I did consider the Pro (equally expensive) at one stage, but the support I recived from my SC101 was shocking which put me off.

I also considered the QNAP range as they're also one of the top brands, and whilst I know performance would have been identical, I wasnt sure about the support.

Im waiting to see the DS1010 show up in the NAS Charts
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quote:
Originally posted by Bart
Some of the ReadyNas's are quite highly regarded.
I did consider the Pro (equally expensive) at one stage, but the support I recived from my SC101 was shocking which put me off.

I also considered the QNAP range as they're also one of the top brands, and whilst I know performance would have been identical, I wasnt sure about the support.

Im waiting to see the DS1010 show up in the NAS Charts


The Intel SS4200 i have used to be on this chart and quite near the top. Now i cannot seem to find it
ed
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Having a powerful NAS could be quite useful actually. One thing I didn't really think about was that if you download a movie and some tard has decided to zip or rar it the you've got to unpack it. I've installed unrar on mine and I'm not sure what's quicker, unrar via ssh or download it to my computer and unpack it locally then upload it again.

 
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