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Generation
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Registered: 7th Jul 09
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21st Jan 11 at 19:56   View User's Profile U2U Member Reply With Quote

Got sent a free ecu of someone on here (please pm ne so can cover postage)
Same problem though! Car fires then dies instantly (less than a second) anymore ideas
Sean-B
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21st Jan 11 at 20:36   View User's Profile U2U Member Reply With Quote

sounds like a fueling issue, try a new fuel relay
Generation
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21st Jan 11 at 21:45   View User's Profile U2U Member Reply With Quote

Thnaks Sean, surely it's not likely to "just die" though is it?
I mean last owner had it running until removal. I get fuel at bleed valve?
Generation
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21st Jan 11 at 21:45   View User's Profile U2U Member Reply With Quote

Thnaks Sean, surely it's not likely to "just die" though is it?
I mean last owner had it running until removal. I get fuel at bleed valve?
connollygt30
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21st Jan 11 at 21:50   View User's Profile U2U Member Reply With Quote

Generation
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21st Jan 11 at 22:27   View User's Profile U2U Member Reply With Quote

Username: connollygt30
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Idle Time: 12m 03s



FUCKING LOL someone needs a life.
dragon2309
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21st Jan 11 at 22:29   View User's Profile U2U Member Reply With Quote

get over it you scottish cunt... fucking stalker tbh
connollygt30
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21st Jan 11 at 22:55   View User's Profile U2U Member Reply With Quote

I really cant,the hate i have for you is unbelivable...timewasting cunt
dragon2309
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21st Jan 11 at 23:07   View User's Profile U2U Member Reply With Quote

Timewasting?? You need your head checked ya fucking tool. Your the one who wanted extortionate amounts of money to meet half way. Your the one who suddenly decided you weren't going to put it on pallet that we were already arranging and you had agreed to do, your the one who kept changing the price... Generation had money waiting, you were the first decent looking engine, price was ok if a bit high, we were going to buy it, until you wanted £200 in diesel to travel a distance that probably would have cost half that. You ruined your own sale, not us.

So tbh, just fuck off mate, there are plenty of people that can sell things, there's also plenty of people that want to sell things and go about it being a fucking knob.

hate all you want, dont think i'll lose any sleep over it...
Generation
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21st Jan 11 at 23:14   View User's Profile U2U Member Reply With Quote

Gotta admit dragon, it's quite funny. Although my engine isnt running yet, it will be. I'm glad I bought of who I did.
I've moved on, if you wan't to dwell Connolly you feel free, you life must be pretty empty.

[Edited on 21-01-2011 by Generation]
chrisritch
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21st Jan 11 at 23:23   View User's Profile U2U Member Reply With Quote

quote:
Originally posted by connollygt30
I really cant,the hate i have for you is unbelivable...timewasting cunt



the whole abuse with every post he makes is hardly going to get anyone anywhere though is it
AlexW
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21st Jan 11 at 23:29   View User's Profile U2U Member Reply With Quote

Have you changed the crank sensor? Is the fuel pump working? You should be able to put your hand onto the top of the fuel pump and feel it work, It will NOT prime with ign, only once the engine is cranking.
dragon2309
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21st Jan 11 at 23:43   View User's Profile U2U Member Reply With Quote

crank sensor has been changed for a new one, we're getting fuel to the rail, so i assume pump is working, but we havent actually felt the pump to see if its pumping.
AlexW
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21st Jan 11 at 23:48   View User's Profile U2U Member Reply With Quote

Id check that it isnt pumping a bit and then clicking out.

dragon2309
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21st Jan 11 at 23:55   View User's Profile U2U Member Reply With Quote

Okay, can check that. If it is cutting out, is it likely to be the fuel pump relay? And if it is the relay, can we test it by bypassing that relay?
Corsa_Sport21
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22nd Jan 11 at 08:08   View User's Profile U2U Member Reply With Quote

What model of corsa is the engine going into??You do have an MPI fuel pump and not an Spi pump??

What are you doing with all the fuel after your trying to start it??The plugs will be soaking.

Try and fire it over,then unplug the fuel pump relay and fire it over with it unplugged.Then plug fuel pump relay back in and fire it over and so forth.Try doing that a few times.
Generation
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22nd Jan 11 at 20:50   View User's Profile U2U Member Reply With Quote

Yes spi pump! What would plugging and unplugging do mate?
BeArDy
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22nd Jan 11 at 21:52   View User's Profile U2U Member Reply With Quote

I will say the same as before
WE NEED MORE INFO TO HELP YOU OUT..........

Basic Fault Finding 101 -

What is making the engine stop? Fuel OR spark
Is the engine sparking when cranking even when the engine stops?
Will the engine fire back up as soon as it stops?
Do you know how to use a Volt meter?
PLEASE STATE IF YOU DO NOT KNOW HOW TO DO ANY OF THE ABOVE.

I have a really good idea what it is BUT i need to know some info first, even if it just teaching you a leason to do some fault finding and stop using the internet hearsay to build your car.

Look mate you think i am trying to have a go at you but i am really not, just getting fed up with people asking for help and not giving any infomation.
Stop stabbing in the dark and guessing whats up for it, do some basic check and we may be able to help...

[Edited on 22-01-2011 by BeArDy]
Ant
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22nd Jan 11 at 22:18   View User's Profile U2U Member Reply With Quote

Needs an mpi fuel pump, spi won't supply enough fuel
Corsa_Sport21
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22nd Jan 11 at 23:01   View User's Profile U2U Member Reply With Quote

quote:
Originally posted by Ant
Needs an mpi fuel pump, spi won't supply enough fuel


Exactly what this man is saying.

Get an Mpi pump in theyr then come back and tell us its running.
BeArDy
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23rd Jan 11 at 12:44   View User's Profile U2U Member Reply With Quote

I agree its best to run a Mpi fuel pump but i really do not think thats the problem in this case. I have seen XE's run on SPI pumps before now BUT that sill dosent mean do not change it.
dragon2309
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23rd Jan 11 at 17:53   View User's Profile U2U Member Reply With Quote

Think he did a typo up there, shell was originally an 8v using spi pump, then converted to x16xe using mpi pump. Now converting to c20xe so there's still an mpi pump in there.
dragon2309
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23rd Jan 11 at 18:02   View User's Profile U2U Member Reply With Quote

quote:
Originally posted by BeArDy
I will say the same as before
WE NEED MORE INFO TO HELP YOU OUT..........

Basic Fault Finding 101 -

What is making the engine stop? Fuel OR spark
Is the engine sparking when cranking even when the engine stops?
Will the engine fire back up as soon as it stops?
Do you know how to use a Volt meter?
PLEASE STATE IF YOU DO NOT KNOW HOW TO DO ANY OF THE ABOVE.

I have a really good idea what it is BUT i need to know some info first, even if it just teaching you a leason to do some fault finding and stop using the internet hearsay to build your car.

Look mate you think i am trying to have a go at you but i am really not, just getting fed up with people asking for help and not giving any infomation.
Stop stabbing in the dark and guessing whats up for it, do some basic check and we may be able to help...

[Edited on 22-01-2011 by BeArDy]
Its getting fuel and spark

Sparks when cranking

Engine doesnt fire nicely again until ignition is taken back to 1st stage, and key turned through 2nd stage ignition and start.

Yes im quite confident with a multimeter.

We aren't stabbing in the dark either, we've tried and checked pretty much everything people have asked us to try. We're not silly and know the basics to check, we exhausted our own knowledge (several days worth) before posting on the usual forums like here. If you know what to do or have some more things to try we'll gladly try them, I appreciate any effort that anybody puts in to helping us out.
Generation
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23rd Jan 11 at 18:10   View User's Profile U2U Member Reply With Quote

Sorry its mpi. Typo
BeArDy
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23rd Jan 11 at 18:51   View User's Profile U2U Member Reply With Quote

Whats cutting the engine out? fuel or spark?
IE when the engine stops has the fuel been cut or has it stop sparking?
Start the engine keep key where it is, remove sparkplug and see if it will spark when cranking WITHOUT removing the key OR taking it back to stage 1

Will the engine fire right up once you take the key back out and start again? IE fire up without any problems?

Any engine Faultcodes?

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