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IvIarkgraham
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26th Feb 11 at 08:51   View Garage View User's Profile U2U Member Reply With Quote

want to put in an outside light read for the summer time. ive bought a cheap sensored light.

what would be the best way of wiring it up to a switch?

never done anything like this before so need to know everything. i have a blank socket, can i wire it to that?
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26th Feb 11 at 11:46   View Garage View User's Profile U2U Member Reply With Quote

Not really no. Should be on a lighting circuit.
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Where is your board? Nearest light switch etc?
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26th Feb 11 at 13:42   View Garage View User's Profile U2U Member Reply With Quote

nearest switch is in the kitchen but i want a seperate switch for it!
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yes but that is where the nearest connection to the lighting circuit is. Can still have your separate switch
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i wouldnt want to wire to there so i'll go into the side of the house.

how would i go about getting in in then?
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what
IvIarkgraham
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i have a cupboard in my living room with a light in it, so rather than having to chisel out the wall in the kitchen i can do it in the cupboard where its hidden
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The light in the cupboard will be on a plug won't it?

Do a quick sketch in paint of the floor plan with where you want the light and where the nearest switch is. Easiest way.

You might be able to take a feed from upstairs too but you'd need to take floorboards up.
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More than likely have no neutral at light switch so would have to come from a lighting JB or ceiling rose.

Nothing wrong with taking off the ring main aslong as its fed via a fused spur with 5A fuse fitted.
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Why should it be on a lighting circuit?

We have ours above our kitchen window coming in from a small hole going into our old extractor fan circuit (fused) with no problems
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if its a sensored light and your mounting it near a socket just drill through the wall use some flex and put it on a plug with a 3amp fuse its wat we do at work
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whack a plug on it and just plug it in
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Its a bit rough putting it on a plugtop tbh, but nothing really wrong with it i suppose.
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a hell off alot neater then having cable clipped all around your house tbf
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27th Feb 11 at 19:29   View Garage View User's Profile U2U Member Reply With Quote

the switch in the kitchen has live neutral and earth

can we add another switch onto that? dont want a plug
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quote:
Originally posted by IvIarkgraham
the switch in the kitchen has live neutral and earth

can we add another switch onto that? dont want a plug


If your sure its a neutral you can yes.

Make sure its not just a single twin and earth cable either with one red core and one black core or one brown core and a blue core.

If you just have one twin and earth both cores will be live, one perm one switched back to the light.

Pics would help.
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Pics/drawings needed tbh
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Tbh mark, by the sounds of it this isn't a job you should take on by yourself. Also, sounds like your gonna need to chase the wall out for new wiring.

Buy a solar powered outside light.
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solar powered lights only glow enough so you dont trip over them
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http://www.google.co.uk/products/catalog?q=solar+powered+LED+outside+light&hl=en&rls=com.microsoft:en-gb:IE-SearchBox&prmd=ivns&biw=1259&bih=839&wrapid=tlif129897239865910&um=1&ie=UTF-8&cid=12604975897017320941&sa=X&ei=675sTaOzEoWv4QafpamzBA&ved=0CFoQ8wIwAA#

Something like that.

LED FTW.

Its the only choice unless he wants an untidy job with trunking down the wall as he's not wanting to chase and re-plaster.
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Mark, i'm over your way for thius Chester night out in a few week. I'll bob up and have a gander if you like if its not sorted by then
IvIarkgraham
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behind both possible switches i have 1 red wire 1 black and 1 earth

can i wire it to that and add a second switch to the same plate?

1 gang 2 switch instead onf 1 gang 1 switch
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quote:
Originally posted by IvIarkgraham
behind both possible switches i have 1 red wire 1 black and 1 earth

can i wire it to that and add a second switch to the same plate?

1 gang 2 switch instead onf 1 gang 1 switch



Most likely the red is always live, and the black is the switched live. There is no neutral. You would still need to find a neutral somewhere.



See what i mean?

[Edited on 01-03-2011 by oceansoul]

FFS Hotlinking is theft bollox

[Edited on 01-03-2011 by oceansoul]
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