Sam
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Is there any way of getting around their £50 HD "activation fee"?
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IvIarkgraham
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virgin is crap imo
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Dom
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quote:
Originally posted by IvIarkgraham
virgin is crap imo
useful as always 
Just blag it! Say you've seen something similar with Sky and they said they'd do the activation for Free (or half price) etc etc
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IvIarkgraham
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just letting him know! sky is far superior
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WATSON
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stay away from virginmedia end off!
sky is 100x better and much cheaper!
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IvIarkgraham
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quote:
Originally posted by WATSON
stay away from virginmedia end off!
sky is 100x better and much cheaper!
woah woah woah
you cant say that dom doesnt thinks its helpful
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Sam
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Freeview it is then! 
Seriously though, don't Sky increase their prices quite regularly?
Sky are a few quid cheaper in comparison to the services I'd want from Virgin TBF, but then Virgin offer fibre optic broadband which is something Sky do not.
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IvIarkgraham
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dont think our sky has gone up,
but sky has more hd channels and their picture quality if better
my mum and dad have nothing but trouble with their vm internet.
my sky has been perfect for 4 years
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Jamescorsa97
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Do you game alot sam? Virgin are terrible for gamers.
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Dom
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quote:
Originally posted by IvIarkgraham
dont think our sky has gone up,
but sky has more hd channels and their picture quality if better
my mum and dad have nothing but trouble with their vm internet.
my sky has been perfect for 4 years
Had cable (TV/Net/Phone) 10/11 years, had one issue in that time. I know people that have had Sky and have had serious problems. Doesn't make either shit, it's just luck of the draw.
However, I would state that I’d keep clear of their ADSL; I’ve never had it but from VM and Cableforums forums/newsgroups, general consensus is that they are shite
Regarding picture quality, Sky HD vs VM HD is near enough the same (although a lot of people prefer the scaler in the V+ box over Sky's HD box, but personally i can't tell the difference); for SD, VM use a higher resolution (704/720x576) over Sky (544x576) and the VM (using the V+ box, scaler comes into play though) clearly provides the better picture.
Technically Freeview beats both platforms on bitrates though.....
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Originally posted by Jamescorsa97
Do you game alot sam? Virgin are terrible for gamers.
Not entirely true, it all depends if you're in an area where the UBR is oversubscribed (common issue if there is one) and even then this doesn't guarantee that you'll have a cack (spikes/packet-loss/high pings etc) connection.
But it isn't any different to having an oversubscribed (ADSL) exchange, which can cause similar issues.
Best thing to do is look on cableforums.co.uk/VM Forums, search for you area and find out if there are issues with your local UBR. No doubt there are similar forums for ADSL where you can find out if your local exchange is likely to be oversubscribed.
[Edited on 25-04-2011 by Dom]
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Root
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quote:
Originally posted by IvIarkgraham
virgin is crap imo
They use cables underground, fibre optics, better than sky's satellites IMO
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Root
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quote:
Originally posted by Jamescorsa97
Do you game alot sam? Virgin are terrible for gamers.
disagree, their standard router is FUCKING SHITE. But their actual connection isn't bad, the router can't handle the requests and freezes
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Dom
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Only standard issue you get now is that you'll be stuffed with a SuperHub (basically an all in one cable modem and Netgear router) if you want a (cabled) BB package higher than 20Mb, which is riddled with firmware issues.
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Originally posted by Root
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Originally posted by IvIarkgraham
virgin is crap imo
They use cables underground, fibre optics, better than sky's satellites IMO
It's only FTTC (Fibre to the Cab; coax from cab to property) and there is pros and cons to both platforms.
[Edited on 25-04-2011 by Dom]
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Sam
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Funny you should mention the Super Hub, I was at a customer's house the other week removing some malware from his PC due to him looking at too much porn, once I sorted that out he told me that ever since he had the new Super Hub installed he couldn't get wireless working - the Virgin Connection Manager or whatever kept popping up so I just completely closed the program and his wireless worked (it didn't whilst it was open)?
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Dom
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quote:
Originally posted by Sam
Funny you should mention the Super Hub, I was at a customer's house the other week removing some malware from his PC due to him looking at too much porn, once I sorted that out he told me that ever since he had the new Super Hub installed he couldn't get wireless working - the Virgin Connection Manager or whatever kept popping up so I just completely closed the program and his wireless worked (it didn't whilst it was open)?
No idea, i don't have a SuperHub (have a Cisco modem). Although i'm not sure why he had VM software installed, the SuperHub doesn't require any from my knowledge (ethernet to computer, online register/activation).
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James_DT
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There's a couple of options to turn off on the SuperHub which improve things. There's a firmware update due some point in May to improve it.
Wouldn't go back to Sky unless I had to, especially with the new Tivo service.
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