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Jonny.N
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4th Oct 11 at 22:14   View User's Profile U2U Member Reply With Quote

hi all needing a bit of advice from a spark, ive got a big compressor, and according to the manifacture it needs a 16amp plug , commando plug ?? anyway, the way the garage is wired up is cable from bedroom right out,and into a twin socket, then a extension powers everything else, ie other sockets, lights etc, is there anyway to get this to work without having to run a mains board to the garage, as thats a absolute ballache as its all tarred path, thanks
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5th Oct 11 at 17:51   View User's Profile U2U Member Reply With Quote

No one a spark on here?
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5th Oct 11 at 18:27   View User's Profile U2U Member Reply With Quote

I take it the twin socket is a spur off the upstairs ring circuit?
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5th Oct 11 at 20:22   View Garage View User's Profile U2U Member Reply With Quote

Is it a ring or radial from the bedroom?

1 or 2 wires?
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Originally posted by Eddx14xe
I take it the twin socket is a spur off the upstairs ring circuit?

I think so yes its running the grey cable that runs most houses.
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5th Oct 11 at 21:54   View User's Profile U2U Member Reply With Quote

If its a spur then you cant do anything to it. Because you cant spur off a spur or extend it etc. Only thing you could do is get a supply to your garage.
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Which would mean i need to run a straight feed from the mains fuse box from the house?
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6th Oct 11 at 00:06   View User's Profile U2U Member Reply With Quote

Yeah.
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6th Oct 11 at 00:12   View Garage View User's Profile U2U Member Reply With Quote

Ideally you would run a ring from the fuse board, particularly if you want to run power tools alongside the compressor and everything else.
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I would get a supply wired to the garage going to the small garage fuse boxes and then everything off that. That way you can have a light circuit, ring circuit and a 16amp socket for your compressor.

Obviously it would be more expensive but it would be better and safer.
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Ok. Ill look into how much etc and if its worth doing. What cable can i use? I know the armour cable can be used but aint that suppose to be expensive? Cheers
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The cable choice depends on how much power/what you want inside the garage and the length of the run.

If your looking at saving money, you could get an electrician to come out and fit the supply and you then wire up the stuff inside the garage. Depends how competent you are at doing it. Or you can run the cables etc and fit the things where you want them e.g sockets and then the electrician can make the final connections and test it all to be safe.
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6th Oct 11 at 15:46   View Garage View User's Profile U2U Member Reply With Quote

Cant you just wire a 16amp commado into your board in your house (own breaker)

then just knock up an extension lead out of some 4mm flex.

That way you avoid regs regarding putting a supply in your garage.
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6th Oct 11 at 16:33   View User's Profile U2U Member Reply With Quote

Hhmm dunno about the commando plug in the house etc. Ill look into it. Any other ways?. Prices etc
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7th Oct 11 at 08:54   View Garage View User's Profile U2U Member Reply With Quote

Put a commando on An outside wall? Then run extension?

It's that a put a board in the garage which will expensive.
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7th Oct 11 at 19:17   View User's Profile U2U Member Reply With Quote

Whats the rating of the compressor?
Just because it requires a 16A commando plug doesnt mean it needs a 16A supply.

16A is the smallest type of commando plug, so if your compressor requires a 5-10A (most domestic compressors are less than 2kw) supply you can install a fused spur before your spurred socket (assuming its spurred from RFC) and come off that as many times as you like.



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If it only requires up to 10 amp why not just stick a 13amp plug on it?
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Well according to the manufacture it will near almost pop 13a fuses all day. Its a 3hp motor.all they said is it will require a commando plug
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7th Oct 11 at 21:23   View Garage View User's Profile U2U Member Reply With Quote

Replace 13a fuse in plug with a piece of steel bar?

You sure it'll pop them? That's a 3kw+ compressor!
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Which means what bud?
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Just make an extension and put a commando in the house somewhere.

How close is the garage to the house?
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About 20 feet away.
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quote:
Originally posted by ash_corsa
Whats the rating of the compressor?
Just because it requires a 16A commando plug doesnt mean it needs a 16A supply.

16A is the smallest type of commando plug, so if your compressor requires a 5-10A (most domestic compressors are less than 2kw) supply you can install a fused spur before your spurred socket (assuming its spurred from RFC) and come off that as many times as you like.





can you put this in laymens terms, not clued up on electrics at all, not that ill be doing it, just need to know and check if its possible to be done that way, am i picking it up properly?, instead of the 13a plug in the socket in the room, take a feed from the back of that socket, doing away with the 13a plug, and run that cable straight to the mains board in the garage? cheers
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9th Oct 11 at 21:38   View User's Profile U2U Member Reply With Quote

Lol at some of the 'Advice' going on here

Just get an electrician in and get it done properly FFS
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quote:
Originally posted by CORSA NUT
Lol at some of the 'Advice' going on here

Just get an electrician in and get it done properly FFS


Whats wrong with replacing a fuse with some steel bar?

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