willay
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Hi!
Anyone administrating TS servers? What sort of users/apps are you running on it?
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John
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Got a few, normally either so they can access sage from outside of the office and another couple that don't have a server at all so use TS, normally for sage. Got an old 2003 one that runs some other antiquated piece of software so loads of users can access remotely.
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willay
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I have users using them every day for their every day operations, connecting via thin clients.
I have 27 connecting and using it, mix of Outlook, Excel, Word, special MIS software, Adobe, IE, Firefox, Chrome - and the server is starting to struggle. Trying to get some idea how overloaded the box is, its spec (virtual) is 4 vcpus (2.5ghz), 12gb of ram
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John
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Would have thought 12gb of ram was massively underspecced for 27 users doing that. The browsers and adobe reader will kill that before you even open anything from a recent office package.
CPU probably just about coping but ram needs to be doubled or even tripled for so many users.
What are the disks like? RAID10?
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VrsTurbo
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I'd be running some perf counters during the day and see what the bottle necks are.
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willay
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storage is on a SAN, we seem to be OK on ram (using about 70% max), CPU on the other hand gets battered most of the day, only recently I added a couple of vcpus, which gave it 4 in total - just seems that if theres more cpus then the applications will have it all.
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VrsTurbo
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Unless it's an intelligent SAN That does auto data moving. It could be a disc bottle neck. What response times to the San do you get? IO on that Lun? Does it use a big flash bus then onto disc?
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pow
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I would say 27 users running that software would require more than 12gb straight off. My TS box is only running remoteapp for Sql based applications where stuff are on a vpn and that has 32 assigned to it, HyperV ofter reports that's it's demanding in the late 20s
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willay
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quote:
Originally posted by VrsTurbo
Unless it's an intelligent SAN That does auto data moving. It could be a disc bottle neck. What response times to the San do you get? IO on that Lun? Does it use a big flash bus then onto disc?
Right ok, but what about the fact that the CPU is being hammered at 100%? You all need to be not addressing that issue and not telling me why. 
no ssd shiz on the SAN, I can grab some stats on the SAN and ensure all is well.
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willay
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quote:
Originally posted by pow
I would say 27 users running that software would require more than 12gb straight off. My TS box is only running remoteapp for Sql based applications where stuff are on a vpn and that has 32 assigned to it, HyperV ofter reports that's it's demanding in the late 20s
Memory isn't being hammered according to Windows, I repeat, CPU is being hammered
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VrsTurbo
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quote:
Originally posted by willay
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Originally posted by pow
I would say 27 users running that software would require more than 12gb straight off. My TS box is only running remoteapp for Sql based applications where stuff are on a vpn and that has 32 assigned to it, HyperV ofter reports that's it's demanding in the late 20s
Memory isn't being hammered according to Windows, I repeat, CPU is being hammered
Whats the host resources like? how many virtuals do you have on this box?
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willay
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CPU: 3350Mhz out of 12 x 2.493ghz being RAM: used
25057.00 MB out of 65501.21MB
5 VMs on this host.
CPU count 10
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willay
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todays latest change, set deny permissions on where flash is installed. CPU usage is down.
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pow
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They chrome as flash is bundled with chrome?
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