big eck
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Registered: 20th Apr 03
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Whats the lowest price I can get to have a turbo engine fitted into my car??? I already have the 2'0ltr engine fitting kit so will that save me money? 
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Adam_B
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Registered: 13th Dec 00
Location: Lancashire
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Save ur cash and spend it on throttle boddies for the xe.
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big eck
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Registered: 20th Apr 03
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Was thinking about that but they are to high maintenence. Just want something that if anything goes wrong with it the parts are easily available.
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BeArDy
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Registered: 7th Aug 00
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high maintenence = turbos ............
throttle bodys m8ty all the way
as for just fitting about 750'ish
plus 1000 for engine
about same price as throttle bodys 
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digitalbanana
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Registered: 24th Nov 02
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how much bhp does TB's give?
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Cybermonkey
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Registered: 22nd Sep 02
Location: Sydney, Australia
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Depends on the setup. SBD do a TB kit for the 16XE which peaks at about 220BHP. The 20XE is much more, 290BHP i think.
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BabyBlade
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Registered: 5th Feb 03
Location: Hereford Rides: Ninja 600
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throttle bodies i rekon thats what i want to go for
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and-m
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Registered: 5th May 02
Location: Liverpool. Drives. Skud vRS.
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290bhp, u mad?
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animality-gt
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Registered: 23rd Jul 02
Location: Dublin,IRELAND
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i think he is!
140 bhp extra from a throttle body swap i think not, mon frere!
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PanaceA
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Registered: 2nd Apr 03
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A lad I know has a C20XE GSI Astra, he put 7 and a half grand into the engine and now its 260Bhp (13.1 at the Pod all stripped out with a 6 speed vectra challenge box). As far as I know, Dave "Lucky B" Patterson put around the same money into his C20XE Corsa and he has 250Bhp (13.2 at the Pod)
290Bhp from just TB's eh?
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PanaceA
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Registered: 2nd Apr 03
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Some of the TB kits for the C20XE are called "192 kit" because they give 192Bhp  not quite 290, heh.
You can put a Wallace Phase 1 kit on a C20LET and see 260Bhp (£300'ish) or a phase 2 and see 280Bhp (£600ish) or a phase 3, 300Bhp+ etc. etc.
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Cybermonkey
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Registered: 22nd Sep 02
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I know luckyB's was pushing 250bhp from the 20XE TB lump in his Corsa, i know of a more powerful 20XE than this too. I cannot remember who it is though.
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Super_si
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quote:
Originally posted by PanaceA
. As far as I know, Dave "Lucky B" Patterson put around the same money
he bought it tuned already..............................
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Mav 3000
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Registered: 16th Aug 01
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When you say TB's are high maintenance, are they? how reliable are they and how often will they give problems? are they a pain in the ass to fix etc?
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luca2020
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Registered: 26th May 02
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problem with C20LETs in corsa is when the turbo kicks in = wheel spin so u need a lsd to use the power u got
TBs this dont happen cos its a even power increase
but with turbos, u got cheaper options for further power upgrades + the tourqe is a alot higher
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craigpcg
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Registered: 17th Mar 01
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big eck son u can just buy my let powered corsa man
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luca2020
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Registered: 26th May 02
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tell us why u like ur LET'ed corsa, what else u got on it?
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craigpcg
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quote:
Originally posted by luca2020
tell us why u like ur LET'ed corsa, what else u got on it?
what do u mean y do i like it
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PaulW
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Registered: 26th Jan 03
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SBD do have a 290+ kit, which will bring the C20XE to upto 290 horses, but its more than just TB's, uprated internals, lots of extras, and im guessing it isnt cheap!
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big eck
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Registered: 20th Apr 03
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Yea and the difference between TB's and a turbo engine is if anything goes wrong with the TB's you cant just pop into your local workshop and expect them to fix it. Where as the turbo is all vauxhall parts, so you can just go into you local dealership.
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THE SRI KID
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Registered: 12th Jul 01
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do tb`s suffer from thermal problems like a turbo?
my mate has a fiesta rs turbo at around 190 bhp and it runs well 2 hot!!
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Daimo B
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TP290 kit is about £15,000 and is designed for hard case racers!
TP240 kit is about £10-£12k fitted.
The 2.0litre 16v Redtop can be tuned to around 300bhp, which is pretty shit hot considering its a N/A 2.0litre. Double the power of standard!!!!
As for Throttle Bodies being high maintenace Poppycock. Turbos are FAR worse. Once u have TB set up correctly, its just like a standard engine, with a bit more poke and petrol consumption can go up (until the right foot gets heavy).
I've been in many highly tunned Corsas now. That included AP Racings 280bhp 2.0litre Turbo and LuckyB's 2.1 16v 250bhp redtop.
The results and my conclusion?
Luckys would have obliterated AP's car to 100. Luckys car just pulls and pulls and pulls and the only reason he topped out at 147mph (mag got it wrong) was cos he run out of runway. This was at about 7500rpm, and it pulls to the 8500rpm limiter in 5th. U work the rest of the speed out
AP's without overboost just wanted to spin up even in 4th. It did go quick yeah, but i'd much rather the TB, hence why i never put the 2.0ltire turbo in mine and got a 2.0litre (in the end )
TB dont suffer like a turbo because its only the engine heat created. Turbos get VERY VERY hot and after constent ragging, they glow, and if there hot enuff u can even see the turbine blades Inside teh turbo!! Its an amazing sight!
But, end of the day, u can either have a little "pittissshh" or BOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAARRRRRRRRRBBBAAAAA ba ba pop pop pop pop BOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOAAAAAAAAAAAAARRRRRRRRRRRRRRRBBAAAAA
TB sound out of this world!!!
U can extract more power from the Turbo yes, but at the end of the day, its a corsa, and i still think 250bhp in a corsa would thrash a 300+bhp Turbo corsa!!
And Dave had a little more than just Throttle Bodies on his 2.1 corsa Its about £10k worth of engine!!!
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PanaceA
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Theres a lad on Mig that ran 13.77 1/4 mile in his Nova LET and a lad I know of on Puntosport has a mate that ran 13.9 in his Corsa LET (std LET). Dave Pattersons £10K+ engine ran a 13.7 at the Redline meet and has a 13.2 best time. From those results it looks like a Corsa LET would run a faster 1/4 mile at the same sort of Bhp as a TB'ed one.
But I do agree, TB's sound awsome - very racey
I'm doing a conversion on a Corsa GSi very soon and I've chosen LET over XE simply because I love the low down torque, the sound of the dump and the 200Bhp+ as standard. I'd have to spend £2000 on the 192 kit if I did a red top conversion. It was hard to decide but I'm going LET over TB XE.
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Leven Cruise
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Registered: 4th Aug 02
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What bout the corsa C in this months TV... C20LET engine with extensive tuning.
Pushing out 315bhp, with a top speed, GPS timed, of 174mph  Fuk that!
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PanaceA
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Registered: 2nd Apr 03
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Jesus! thats some big balls.
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