Gary GSi
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I am thinking of putting a valver in my GSi and want to know exactly what i need.
This is my list so far;
2.0 L 16 V engine musnt forget that
Engine wire loom
ECU
Engine mounts and drive shafts etc kit from PVD or whoever
What about hoses and fuel lines?
Can i keep my standard radiator?
Do i need a bigger battery or anything like that?
Cheers for any info
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ally denton
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Registered: 31st May 03
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1.4 16v rad and fan ive heard because its a lot slimmer
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calidus
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Registered: 27th Oct 02
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What about exhaust systems? is there a different wiring loom?
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craigpcg
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quote:
Originally posted by ally denton
1.4 16v rad and fan ive heard because its a lot slimmer
better with a corsa td as there a lot bigger
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3CorsaMeal
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Engine - C20XE - astra gte's, gsi's' cavalier gsi's. some early calibras
Gearbox - F20
Driveshafts - PVD, can be machined but is hassle
Hubs - PVD, can be machined but is hassle
Loom - come with engine
Engine Mounts - PVD, or can make own.
Clutch - standard item for engine, uprated
Accelerator cable - Astra engine, can get from Vauxhall
Vauxhall Intake pipe/powercap - No cutting of bulkhead required for Intake pipe, powercap to replace SFi box is optional cos there's the alternative of a vectra pipe and v-tuning adapter (£12 + £60)
Front Wheel bearings - standard ones, just new.
Hoses,pipes etc...
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calidus
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does he need all the hoses for an astra 16v engine? would nova 2l 16v driveshafts or engine mounts fit? as the engine is coming out of a nova as far as I know :-)
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Greasemonkey
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I hope that the conversion does happen cos i want ya GSI engine he he, dont forget
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Gary GSi
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Does anyone know how to link the exhaust systems because the bottom of the manifold on the valver will be in a different place to the 1.6. Can you get rid of the standard cat and weld a piece of pipe from the front of the centre pipe to the bottom of the manifold? Do all the main coolent hoses follow roughly the same route and are similar in length?
[Edited on 01-08-2003 by Gary GSi]
[Edited on 01-08-2003 by Gary GSi]
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Dan_Corsa
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Registered: 27th Nov 00
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2.0 16v engine,loom,ecu,f20 box should all come with the engine
shafts use courtenay one's no need to change hubs or wheel bearings and can use corsa cv's
mounts available from cross vaux or lee mitchell
sfi box replacement use ecotek pipe from vaux and get top gear in burnley to fabricate a plate to mount it
rad has to have 3 inlets outlet pipes,found on 16v corsa's
header tank with 2 inlets 1 outlet
fuel pump has to be one off a mpi corsa
(info above thanks to beardy :lol
using the parts above will save time and money
[Edited on 01-08-2003 by Dan_Corsa]
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Dan_Corsa
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quote:
Originally posted by Gary GSi
Does anyone know how to link the exhaust systems because the bottom of the manifold on the valver will be in a different place to the 1.6. Can you get rid of the standard cat and wild a piece of pipe from the front of the centre pipe to the bottom of the manifold? Do all the main coolent hoses follow roughly the same route and are similar in length?
[Edited on 01-08-2003 by Gary GSi]
it depends on the engine if its a c20xe it needs a cat for the mot but you can remove it and replace the cat for the mot,if its a 20xe like mine then a cat isn't required fot the mot,i used my flexy part of the exhuast system and cut it to fit in the smallish gap between the corsa exhaust and the astra engine manifold and i have used my original coolant hose's most of them fit
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Gary GSi
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The Lad i am buying the engine off had it in a Nova running on twin webber 45s which you dont need an ECU for i dont think, would the loom be different?
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Dan_Corsa
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no the loom wouldn't be different and with webber carbs u don't need a ecu
[Edited on 01-08-2003 by Dan_Corsa]
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miles
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You wont need a cat on a c20xe. They came with one as standard but most of the cars are older than 93.
Nova mounts will be the same.
The loom from the nova for the carbs will fit your corsa.
3CorsaMeal, why do you need a uprated clutch? and new wheel bearings?
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Dan_Corsa
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quote:
Originally posted by miles
You wont need a cat on a c20xe. They came with one as standard but most of the cars are older than 93.
Nova mounts will be the same.
The loom from the nova for the carbs will fit your corsa.
3CorsaMeal, why do you need a uprated clutch? and new wheel bearings?
is this correct i was told that the mot tester looks at the engine number to determin weather its pre cat 20xe or catted c20xe engine,i've already looked at my engine code and its easy enough 2 spot,but i could be wrong
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miles
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No mot tester is going to be arsed to look at the engine number. They are a pain to see.
My mate has had a decat on his H reg cally and it passed the mot no problem. Thats a c20xe
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Dan_Corsa
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yeah but its from a pre 1993 car take my w reg corsa it's a catted car but it passed its mot with out a cat cos of the engine not requiring 1,he looks in a book for the engine number so he can match what emisions that engine should run at,like i say i might be completly wrong just what i have heard and thought
http://www.migweb.co.uk/forums/showthread.php?s=&threadid=75433&highlight=c20xe+need+cat
[Edited on 01-08-2003 by Dan_Corsa]
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AdamF
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quote:
Originally posted by miles
You wont need a cat on a c20xe. They came with one as standard but most of the cars are older than 93.
Nova mounts will be the same.
The loom from the nova for the carbs will fit your corsa.
3CorsaMeal, why do you need a uprated clutch? and new wheel bearings?
no there not mate tottally different
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Dan_Corsa
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quote:
Originally posted by AdamF
quote:
Originally posted by miles
You wont need a cat on a c20xe. They came with one as standard but most of the cars are older than 93.
Nova mounts will be the same.
The loom from the nova for the carbs will fit your corsa.
3CorsaMeal, why do you need a uprated clutch? and new wheel bearings?
no there not mate tottally different
nova engine sits closer to the drivers side chassis leg than the corsa
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AdamF
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the mounts are different to i belive not sur though dont really pay much attention 
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miles
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Ok fair enough, the actual mounting points are in the same places on the cars.
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Dan_Corsa
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quote:
Originally posted by AdamF
the mounts are different to i belive not sur though dont really pay much attention
yep i belive the nova mounts are different
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Dan_Corsa
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quote:
Originally posted by miles
Ok fair enough, the actual mounting points are in the same places on the cars.
this is true (rear engine mount) under body to the side of the gearbox,(left hand mount)front of gear box to left hand chassis leg(right hand engine mount) right side of engine to the right hand chassis leg they both have the same mounting points just different mounts
[Edited on 01-08-2003 by Dan_Corsa]
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Gary GSi
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The engine is originally out of a 93 Cav GSi so i will need a cat at MOT time. I work at an MOT testing garage so i might be able to sort something out. *if you know what i mean* wink wink.
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Dan_Corsa
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quote:
Originally posted by Gary GSi
The engine is originally out of a 93 Cav GSi so i will need a cat at MOT time. I work at an MOT testing garage so i might be able to sort something out. *if you know what i mean* wink wink.
yeah it will deffo be a c20xe then,but i'm sure u will b able to sort it out
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Gary GSi
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The best way to get around it is do a cat test on another car but put my reg into the machine. so i will have a print out test pass from a good newish car but it will be for my car. You dont know about this though, OK.
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