corsa-jr
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Registered: 2nd Feb 09
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does anyone know the law on harnes in a road car?
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Gareth F
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Registered: 16th Jan 08
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Harnes 
Horns or harnesses?
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corsa_chr1s
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Registered: 22nd Dec 08
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think he means harnesses
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corsa-jr
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yer sorry harnesses
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Fonz
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Registered: 12th May 06
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as far as i know the same laws and regs apply as a seatbelt.
must be in place, work and are secure
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Gareth F
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And the place they are bolted to should be at shoulder height i seem to remember someone saying unless the seats are stronger enough not to crush them selves.
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Ste
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Registered: 5th Mar 03
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here is the law for you.
Check each seat requiring a seat belt is fitted with
a belt of the appropriate type (see Annex 1 and
2).
3. Check each seat belt including any optional belt is
secured
• to the vehicle structure or where the belt is
integral with the seat to the seat structure
• using a fixing of adequate strength
• such that it can be separated from the
anchorage without causing damage to the
anchorage.
NOTE 1: A suitable single bolt fixing of adequate
strength would be, for example, a bolt of at least
11mm (7/16") diameter of grade 8.8 (the grade
may not be shown on a bolt produced for a seat
belt anchorage).
Other bolt fixings may be acceptable providing
they are of equivalent strength.
Two adjacent seat belts may be secured by one
bolt. In this case consideration must be given to
the additional loads on the anchorage.
NOTE 2: In order that a seat belt can be
separated from the anchorage without causing
damage to the anchorage, for example a
mounting in the side of a tube or box section, it is
a requirement that the bolt is secured into a
“fixed” threaded hole or captive nut. (The
presenter may be required to demonstrate this
condition is met). The bolt may be secured into an
alternative fixing, eg a lock nut of suitable
strength, where access is provided to the “rear” of
the mounting to enable separation/re-attachment
of the belt.
4. Check all seat belts (mandatory and optional)
fitted,
a. bear a designated approval mark (“E” or “e”), or
b. have equivalent characteristics to that of a belt
approved for the same category of vehicle.
Check the characteristics include
i. the webbing is of an equivalent type of
material and where it is likely to come into
contact with the body of the wearer is at
least 46mm (33mm in the case of a harness
belt shoulder straps) in width.
ii. all components are suitably protected
against corrosion, eg plated or coated.
iii. the locking mechanism, ie the buckle, when
both under load and not under load, can be
released by a single movement in one
direction by either hand.
iv. other than a harness belt the locking
mechanism contact area with the body of
the wearer is not less than 46mm in width.
v. for a static seat belt there is a manual
adjusting device
• accessible to the wearer when seated
• convenient and easy to use
• capable of being tightened with one
hand.
vi. for a retracting belt
• the retractor locks when the vehicle is
subject to deceleration, tilt or the belt is
pulled quickly from the retracting
mechanism.
5. Fasten each belt locking mechanism (buckle) and
try to pull the locked section apart. On retracting
seat belts, check that, with the mechanism
fastened and the seat unoccupied, excess
webbing is wound into the retractor unit.
NOTE: Some types of retracting belt might need
help before they retract.
Operate the release mechanism while pulling on
the belt to check that it releases when required.
6. Where a lap/diagonal retracting belt is fitted,
check the position and operation of the retractor
mechanism.
NOTE 1: A belt may be fitted with retractor
mechanisms on both lap and diagonal sections. If
fitted with a single retractor mechanism it must act
initially on the diagonal (shoulder) section.
NOTE 2: An “automatically locking” retractor (ie
one that allows extension of the belt to the
desired length and when the buckle is fastened
locks on retraction but then prevents subsequent
forward movement by the wearer, unlike a typical
inertia reel belt), is not permitted unless the
feature is only provided after full extension of
the belt from the retractor, ie for use as a child
restraint.
7. Check each lap belt or three-point belt has
provision for the safe and convenient storage of
the belt when not in use.
NOTE: An independent belt storage facility is only
necessary where it is needed to ensure the belt is
always accessible for use.
8.
a. Check every passenger seating position which
is fitted with an air bag is provided with a label
warning against the use of a rearward facing
child restraint on the seat. (Applies to vehicles
having a date of manufacture from 1 Oct. 1999
only).
NOTE 1: This item shall not apply where a
mechanism is fitted which senses automatically the
presence of a rearward facing child restraint and
prevents air bag deployment.
NOTE 2: Where a seat is capable of being turned
for use when the vehicle is stationary, this
requirement only applies when the seat is in the
position designated for normal use when
travelling on a road.
b. Check
i) the label is
• permanently fixed to the vehicle
• in pictogram form (although explanatory
text may be included) (see diagram
below)
• easily visible in front of a person about to
install a rearward facing child restraint
ii) if the label is not visible when the door is
closed that a permanent reference is visible
at all times.
That isn't conclusive as I don't have the most modern copy.
I would rather lose by a mile because i built my own car, than win by an inch because someone else built it for me.
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FAZ
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Registered: 24th Nov 07
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^^^christ 
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