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Ian
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10th Jan 10 at 02:52   View Garage View User's Profile U2U Member Reply With Quote

My toilet flushes fine but most of the time doesn't seal back up properly so it carries on running water in to the bowl, very annoying and wasteful.

I've taken the flush mechanism out and the plunger doors don't move freely.

This is the model I have

http://www.thomasdudley.co.uk/niagara.asp

I can remove the green bit but the white lower section is still in there (and stopping the residual water)

Can I swap the green top section only? Don't really fancy removing the bottom bit as that's a bigger job and not really necessary.
M2RTY
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10th Jan 10 at 12:13   View User's Profile U2U Member Reply With Quote

can you not adjust it?
Gregor
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10th Jan 10 at 17:39   View User's Profile U2U Member Reply With Quote

Ian youd be as well just to replace the lot , really not as hard a job as you may think.

Do you have an isolation valve on the toilets feed pipe ?
JamesMG
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10th Jan 10 at 19:44   View User's Profile U2U Member Reply With Quote

aslong as you can get another exact one then you will be able to replace just the top part, most modern syphons are designed now so you dont need to remove the cistern for a direct replacement...

however are you sure its the syphon at fault? that has an internal overflow so it could be the inlet valve at fault if its constantly running through..
Ian
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10th Jan 10 at 19:54   View Garage View User's Profile U2U Member Reply With Quote

quote:
Originally posted by JamesMG
it could be the inlet valve at fault if its constantly running through..
No, if it seals properly then it stops filling as normal. Also if it's running through I can put my hand in there and push the piston down and it stops. Got it in bits now and the economy flush side doesn't move as freely.

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Originally posted by Gregor
Do you have an isolation valve on the toilets feed pipe ?
If you mean to stop it filling, I've just tied up the ball valve with some wire. Although this will be no good if I'm removing the cistern to change the bottom bit. I'll check that out.
Bart
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10th Jan 10 at 21:29   View User's Profile U2U Member Reply With Quote

I had the exact same problem a while back Ian.

Its actually just easier to swap the whole lot out.

Buy a whole kit, it took me about 15 mins to do the whole lot and im office based
Tiesto
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10th Jan 10 at 21:37   View User's Profile U2U Member Reply With Quote

I had the same problem too. The rubber seal on the bottom was knackered, just bought a new and job done.
As a temp solution I loosened the screw on the lid which connected to the mechanism, which seemed to lessen the amount of water going through.
Ian
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11th Jan 10 at 00:37   View Garage View User's Profile U2U Member Reply With Quote

Don't really fancy changing the whole lot as the button is on the top and most others I've looked at need a handle on the side of the cistern.

Did make someone an offer on Ebay for 15 quid but it was refused, someone else bought it full price and now the cheapest one is 27.50.

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I know this may sound simple, but I had this once and all I did to stop it was unscrew the surround to the two flush buttons half a turn or so and it meant it just flushed as normal then stopped.
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11th Jan 10 at 11:05   View Garage View User's Profile U2U Member Reply With Quote

Our little repair has failed then
just get one and replace the top half and see if that makes a diference if not then replace the lot, its not a hard thing to do at all !
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11th Jan 10 at 13:44   View Garage View User's Profile U2U Member Reply With Quote

i have this once a year, just change the lot its much easier, i also find tapping both buttons a few times sorts it out for a while too


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Ojc
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11th Jan 10 at 16:40   View User's Profile U2U Member Reply With Quote

Stop doing massive turds.
Ian
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28th Jan 10 at 21:56   View Garage View User's Profile U2U Member Reply With Quote

17.99 on the Buy it Now

Offered 16.00, got declined.

Relisted 14.99 starting price

No bids, sniped at 14.99. Sound.
Limecat
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29th Jan 10 at 00:08   View User's Profile U2U Member Reply With Quote

So you put up with a faulty bog for over a fortnight as you saved a penny?

By the time you have spent one it's all even.

[Edited on 29-01-2010 by LETGSI16V]
Ian
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29th Jan 10 at 00:58   View Garage View User's Profile U2U Member Reply With Quote

Pound and a penny.

I've got two toilets.
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I was on about the post on the 11th!
Ian
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30th Jan 10 at 00:24   View Garage View User's Profile U2U Member Reply With Quote

Yeah the Buy it Now was £16.10, I think that may have been a counter-offer.

 
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