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Steve

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18th Apr 07 at 07:51

Heres why

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The Xbox 360 12x DVD-ROM with a data transfer rate of 16MB per second for gaming applications spins SIX TIMES faster than the 2x BD-ROM drive used in the Playstation 3, which only has a data transfer rate of 9MB per second for gaming applications.

topshot_2k

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18th Apr 07 at 07:53

morning steve

Welsh Dan

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18th Apr 07 at 08:09

So it spins six times faster, but doesn't even manage to get twice the data transfer rate? Not very efficient

Steve

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18th Apr 07 at 08:24

yes spin rate obviously isnt proportional directly with transfer rate

John

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18th Apr 07 at 08:30

The ps3 drive consistently reads the data at the same speed.

360 is faster on the outer of the disc.

Yet again you've made up an excuse for a downpoint of the 360.

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18th Apr 07 at 08:31

Steve

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18th Apr 07 at 08:36

quote:
Originally posted by John
The ps3 drive consistently reads the data at the same speed.

360 is faster on the outer of the disc.

Yet again you've made up an excuse for a downpoint of the 360.

no the 360 is 16mb across the disk john, where did you find that rubbish out?

Steve

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18th Apr 07 at 08:38

and even if your theory was correct john, it would still be reading faster on the inner edge of the disk than the sony can output consistantly anyway, so whichever way you want to look at it, the drive reads faster than the ps3, which is why its noisier

Voyto

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18th Apr 07 at 08:50

If you have a sansung drive in your 360 and the noise bothers your that much, i can slow it down with a firmware flash

Rus

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18th Apr 07 at 09:41

and the downside?

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=rlQYkaXv8RU

Rus

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18th Apr 07 at 09:44

tbh, i enjoy these arguements.

abdus

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18th Apr 07 at 10:05

quote:
Originally posted by Rus
and the downside?

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=rlQYkaXv8RU

code:
The lense makes scratches because Microsoft forgot to put rubber cushions around the lense

topshot_2k

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18th Apr 07 at 10:14

my disks have no scratches

Steve

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18th Apr 07 at 10:21

nor mine tbh

dazavich

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18th Apr 07 at 11:03

Mine have scratches, not from the xbox but me leaving them out of the boxes, haha

Mine hasnt missed a beat......................yet

topshot_2k

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18th Apr 07 at 11:07

just more sony fanboy propaganda tbh

Steve

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18th Apr 07 at 11:36

the ps3 really is too late, a year ot two ago it would have been an amazing console

Dom

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18th Apr 07 at 12:11

quote:
Originally posted by topshot_2k
my disks have no scratches

that is the dumbest comment i've heard. Its like saying, my leg hasn't been blown off due to an anti-tank mine, but it certainly happens

Eitherway, its a problem thats becoming more apparent and has been since launch. Not sure what microsoft are doing about it though....probably brushing it under the carpet of "microsoft cock ups"

p.s - it won't be a constant 16MB data transfer either same as the ps3, it won't be a constant 9mb. But you're certainly not getting 6 times more advatange over the ps3, just more noise and deeper scratches

Daniel_Corsa

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18th Apr 07 at 12:13

quote:
Originally posted by Steve
the ps3 really is too late, a year ot two ago it would have been an amazing console

Still is today.

Played on both and know which I'm buying.

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topshot_2k

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18th Apr 07 at 12:16

quote:
Originally posted by Dom

quote:
Originally posted by topshot_2k
my disks have no scratches

that is the dumbest comment i've heard. Its like saying, my leg hasn't been blown off due to an anti-tank mine, but it certainly happens

Eitherway, its a problem thats becoming more apparent and has been since launch. Not sure what microsoft are doing about it though....probably brushing it under the carpet of "microsoft cock ups"

p.s - it won't be a constant 16MB data transfer either same as the ps3, it won't be a constant 9mb. But you're certainly not getting 6 times more advatange over the ps3, just more noise and deeper scratches

Launch consoles have the old drives new ones have better disk drives

Joe

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18th Apr 07 at 12:28

Yawn. Mine is too loud, wish they had done something to make it quieter. Thats all I care about.

abdus

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18th Apr 07 at 12:31

so from above comments, earlier versions of xbox drives were not good...they had to change/upgrade them...

topshot_2k

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18th Apr 07 at 12:38

they changed the drives at some point yes, not due to scrathing problems, few mates have launch consoles that are fine

Tim

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18th Apr 07 at 12:47

12x DVD-ROM drives tend to use CAV (constant angular velocity) rather than ZCLV in BD-ROM, so John's comment is correct. Most vary from around 4X at the centre to 12X by the outside. The fact the disk spins at a constant speed means the data goes past the laser faster as you move towards the outside of the disk - simple maths.

This means an 12X DVD-ROM only (crudely) averages 8X speed, which is pretty comparable to a 2X BD-ROM.

And you say Sony fanboys get given an inch and take a mile

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18th Apr 07 at 12:50

@Tim's last comment