Marcus_corsa
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hi guys
ive got a x14xe with a:
pipercross viper
Lexmaul inlet manifold
Skimmed head
Janspeed 4-2-1 exhaust manifold
magnex decat straight through exhaust
just wondering what sort of power can be achieved with these engines and what sort of power people have with there mods they've got???
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Steve X16XE
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I'd say 110 bhp. Wait for Robin to post. He had one and done some mods to it.
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pacman001001
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does a skimmed head actually do anything to the performance? i thought it was done to make a better seal... me being thick again?
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Warren G
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105bhp
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Robin
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Same spec as mine, but I had a chip.
I made 116bhp and 96lb/ft
I'd say you'll make 110bhp on that spec.
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Warren G
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mine made 113bhp
4-2-1 manifold
decat
full system
mantzel inlet
modded airbox with panel filter
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Marcus_corsa
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think ill get it rolling roaded soon to find the actuall bhp figures.
first though i need to put a cold air feed on for the viper to stop the heat getting sucked in.
what would your advice be for the next mods??
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sand-eel
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quote:
Originally posted by pacman001001
does a skimmed head actually do anything to the performance? i thought it was done to make a better seal... me being thick again?
it increases compression, so you get more power but higher chance of pre-ignition, so higher octane fuel will be needed to be safe, but it all depends how high the compression is.
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Richardhhha
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on a standard 14xe you are looking at 300psi compresion, well thats what mines running but i did see when i changed the cam belt that the inlet cam said 16xe on it .... So don't know if its had head work before.
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Dean_W
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Same cams iirc.
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Marcus_corsa
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should run abit nicer with a cold air feed on aswell !!!!
thinking about cams next??
what advice do people have with cams??
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sand-eel
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mild 256degree one's should be nice
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Warren G
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quote:
Originally posted by Richardhhha
on a standard 14xe you are looking at 300psi compresion, well thats what mines running but i did see when i changed the cam belt that the inlet cam said 16xe on it .... So don't know if its had head work before.
300  try 200
no head work, they all have x16xe written on them
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Richardhhha
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well compression test showed up
Cyl 1 309
Cyl 2 309
Cyl 3 310
Cyl 4 309
admitedly when it had its exhaust it was keeping/pushing it but was still not able to pull away with 127bhp fiesta zetec S
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Marcus_corsa
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what brand do people reccomend when getting cams and what other parts are needed i.e vernier pulleys etc????
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Steve X16XE
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newman cams and Dblias pulleys.
http://www.regal-shop.co.uk/acatalog/Dbilas_Vernier_Timing_Gears_corsab.html
JAM-sport or Vsport can sort you out with the cams you need.
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Robin
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We (JAM-sport) can probably get the Dbilas pullies too
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sand-eel
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what about piper verniers there is a few to choose from
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Robin
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Dbilas verniers are the only ones which allow you to retain the standard management, all the others don't have the cam position sensor lugs on them, we can get Piper ones too though, if you want to upgrade to proper management.
[Edited on 15-02-2008 by Robin]
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Steve X16XE
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"proper management."
Who's that? OMEX?
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sand-eel
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ya omex, emerald, etc
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Marcus_corsa
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what are the benifits or getting proper management like omex and what are the costs??
ill probably just end up getting cams and Dblias pulleys for the minute though but proper management is worth a thought
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Warren G
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quote:
Originally posted by Marcus_corsa
what are the benifits or getting proper management like omex and what are the costs??
ill probably just end up getting cams and Dblias pulleys for the minute though but proper management is worth a thought
for your budget and use of car not much point, unless your running run on throttle bodies and have £2k plus to spend
get a inlet manifold, mantzel or dbilas, matching ECU software with raised rev limit, but to rev safley get atp con-rod bolts and sbd metal rollers
4-2-1 manifold isnt realy nessary, unless your after thoes last 2bhp's
decat, and a catback system
264 cams
and the thing everyone forgets, lightened flywheel and a lower fd in the gearbox, make a difference even though dont add bhp
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Robin
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quote:
Originally posted by Steve X16XE
"proper management."
Who's that? OMEX?
Gotech, omex, dta, whatever.
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Marcus_corsa
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well im not going down the throttle body route as yet,maybe for the future but not at the moment.
ive got a lexmaul inlet manifold already on it so thats sorted,ive got the janpspeed manifold, decat straight through on it aswell so thats a good start.
wheres the best place to get atp con-rod bolts and sbd metal rollers???
and where and what do i need for raised rev limit??
wouldnt it be better to get the cams,pulleys and ported and polished head with atp con-rod bolts and sbd metal rollers before i get it remaped with raised rev limit surely for better results???
[Edited on 19-02-2008 by Marcus_corsa]
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