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Ben G
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i will be sorting out the house over christmas and one of the main things that i have a problem with is the gloss skirting/doors that is supposed to be white, but has gone a creamy colour.

does anyone know why it has done this? i used dulux brilliant white gloss so thought it should be ok.

would it be better to paint over them in matt white? or would this do the same?

i painted the doors/skirting about 6 months ago so seems like it's faded quite quick.
John
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I was advised to use oil based stuff. It's only been on a couple of months though. Hasn't faded so far.
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Dulux had big problems with water based gloss yellowing recently. Oil should be better.

Gloss yellows generally anyway though.
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matt always looks better but you get more bristle lines on it unless you cake it on
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the yellow ting on the gloss will be due to no sunlight getting to it

well that's what i have been told anyway
Ben G
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oh ok, i thought it was the other way round.
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Daniel_Corsa
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Gloss skirting and surrounds, satin doors.

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Bonney
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Had noticed that aout the dulux paint, We did the whole house (All the skirting, and woodwork) and it seems to have yellowed very quickly!
cunningham
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Ronseal wood paint with anti yellowing agent. The yellowing is the oils from the paint. The Ronseal is water based been on now 8 months and its still bright white
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I used Satinwood and it has yellowed already.

Certainly looks better than gloss though.

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Ben G
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glad it's not just me that had the problem. spent ages painting all the wood and doors aswell
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Use trade dulux pure brilliant white satin wood.

Doest seem to yellow, doesnt 'drip' like gloss and just looks better in my opinion.

Obv if you want shiney go for gloss
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quote:
Originally posted by Ben G
oh ok, i thought it was the other way round.
cheers


Me too. Rooms in this house where the sun always goes into them, the gloss is definitely yellowing but in other rooms with not much sunlight in are white.

That's next on my to-do list for the house, other half says she doesn't want gloss on the skirting boards and door frames.
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12th Dec 11 at 21:16   View Garage View User's Profile U2U Member Reply With Quote
Ive just done my hall, which has 4 doors and a fair bit of skirting.

Done it all gloss, looks so much nicer than satin, if the finish is nice. Otherwise it looks wank

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Ojc
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First up did you prime it or just gloss on top of gloss?

We always use acrylic undercoat on doors and architraves/frames even if previously glossed otherwise the colour underneath bleeds through eventually if you just gloss on top.

Also as mention water based paints are shite for covering. What AK suggested is what we use, lots of people lately are going satinwood but you cannot beat the freshly finished look of gloss against a full re dec looks so much brighter.
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I hate Gloss
Ojc
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Working with it is a pig of a job and it takes ages. I've got two doors and some skirting to do today and it will take ages
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TBF, I hate gloss just because it takes so damn long to go off. Looks good freshly painted though.
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Gloss doors?! Nothing better than gloss skirting and architrave but really a full door in gloss?!

Matt ceiling
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Gloss skirting / architrave
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Ben G
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gloss skirting/door frame in gloss but a matt door would look wrong imo.

just realised my dads house is all matt, so going down that route.
Ojc
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In all the jobs I've done I have never been asked to do the doors in satin and the architrave in gloss.
Seany
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most that i've done have been satin doors and gloss frames, also if you think gloss is shit to use then try a polyurethane finish (not that i expect any of you's ever would).
it's like painting with water that can give you cancer. i hate using the stuff at work
Ben G
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finally got round to sorting this out, done 2 coats, needs 1 more ideally, better than cream though.

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Ojc
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2 coats? You using water based gloss or what?
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Farrow & Ball paint is where its at

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