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John
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14th Nov 06 at 13:46   View User's Profile U2U Member Reply With Quote

Have you got an hd-dvd that you have played on it?
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quote:
Originally posted by John
Have you got an hd-dvd that you have played on it?


Came with some sample disc but thats all we've had thats HD played through it as far as I know. I dont live there all the time so dont bother buying anything for that myself.

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Get one of they 50000 discs and try it.

If you have one fair enough but all the facts I can find point to you not having one.
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If you have one fair enough but all the facts I can find point to you not having one.


Yeah I totally understand where your coming from, and cant explain either why the link says those dates or why we managed to get one before last Xmas.

I'll check for certain at the end of the week and post up the receipt, 100% sure though.
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I'm hedging my bets on it being an upscaling DVD player if it's not a proper HD player
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What about the fact a blu ray player costs 800 quid and is just out.

I wouldn't be making any judgments on it until ps3's are out here and blu ray players have had a chance to actually get in peoples houses.

Re-reading that you work in a distribution place, what has you managing to get all of they dvd's moved from your warehouse to wherever got to do with how many are sold


but if people are buying HD DVD players then blu ray wont get into houses. HD will have a big lead by the time sony release ps3
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You've talked quite a lot of rubbish on this subject before though and seem to be one of these anti sony people.

As soon as the ps3 is released that's a couple of million in houses within 1 day.

No matter how many people slate the ps3 or blu ray every single ps3 will be sitting under a uk tv on launch date.

By that time hopefully the blue diode supply problems will be sorted and drives will drop to the same as hd-dvd.

Again, i'm not saying hd-dvd won't come off better, just that I have to say yet again on here NOBODY knows what will happen yet and the rubbish i've seen people bringing up so far is nothing to base an opinion on.
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also in order to compete for the cost of the players blu ray will need to half the cost and hope that HD DVD players dont drop in price which they will. Blu ray costs more to produce and allways will, therefore it will always cost more to the consumer
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do upscaling DVD's use HDMI cables to connect to the tele?
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How exactly will it always cost more?

I should just let people talk rubbish and save myself a considerable amount of time.
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Yes cosmo.
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quote:
Originally posted by John
Yes cosmo.


I'll check up on it but still think its a HD player...almost certain!
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Originally posted by John
You've talked quite a lot of rubbish on this subject before though and seem to be one of these anti sony people.

As soon as the ps3 is released that's a couple of million in houses within 1 day.

No matter how many people slate the ps3 or blu ray every single ps3 will be sitting under a uk tv on launch date.


By that time hopefully the blue diode supply problems will be sorted and drives will drop to the same as hd-dvd.

Again, i'm not saying hd-dvd won't come off better, just that I have to say yet again on here NOBODY knows what will happen yet and the rubbish i've seen people bringing up so far is nothing to base an opinion on.


im NOT anti sony. I just believe blu ray to be a technology thats not needed yet and as such doesnt work to its max potential. HD DVD is by far the cheaper and if sony had chose HD i would be backing them (apart from i dont agree with there copy protection)
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Blu ray is almost exactly the same technology as hd-dvd though so how can we need one and not the other.

What we do need is more storage atm and it will most likely be one of them for the next few years.
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My personal opinion on this is that Blu Ray will suffer from the same fate as Minidiscs (which I really hoped would take off : ()

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blu ray disks can hold 50GB what movies need that kind of capacity? HD DVD can hold 30GB and thats 8 hours worth of film!

As you say they are near identical except disk coating/smaller pits etc but surely HD 'cheapness' far outweights the extra capacity? plus this BD+ security to prevent disk copying seems OTT from sony Again


[Edited on 14-11-2006 by topshot_2k]
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plenty of opinions and facts over at AV forums. Makes for quite interesting reading. Think the general consensus is that HD-DVD will be better.
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So your whole argument is based on us not needing the extra storage blu-ray has.

Because we'll never need extra storage

They'll fill every single bit of that up very soon and when I come to buy one for my computer i'd want the one that holds most tbh.

Also, without doubt, in a couple of years time stuff will be on 2 of whatever format disc because 30 and 50 gig isn't enough anymore.

Going by that logic i'd pick the one that holds most from the outset.
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yeah I think we can safely say the fact that it holds 'more' data isn't the reason why it may not do well
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i havnt said its the reason have i? i merely said the cost of the extra capacity is rediculous compared to HD, which offers a lot more storage than standard DVD's at a lot lower cost, when comapred to blu ray players

[Edited on 14-11-2006 by topshot_2k]
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quote:
Originally posted by Cosmo
quote:
Originally posted by John
Yes cosmo.


I'll check up on it but still think its a HD player...almost certain!


i'll put 1p on it being HD compatible
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i'll put 1p on it being HD compatible


I could be rich soon
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Blu Ray has a theoretical limit of 200G

it's not only about movies, but data and storing everything. Blu Ray will take over. I'm 99% sure. I might be 1% wrong
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quote:
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quote:
Originally posted by abdus
i'll put 1p on it being HD compatible


I could be rich soon


no, send my 1p by Special Delivery

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quote:
Originally posted by John
You've talked quite a lot of rubbish on this subject before though and seem to be one of these anti sony people.

As soon as the ps3 is released that's a couple of million in houses within 1 day.

No matter how many people slate the ps3 or blu ray every single ps3 will be sitting under a uk tv on launch date.

By that time hopefully the blue diode supply problems will be sorted and drives will drop to the same as hd-dvd.

Again, i'm not saying hd-dvd won't come off better, just that I have to say yet again on here NOBODY knows what will happen yet and the rubbish i've seen people bringing up so far is nothing to base an opinion on.


tbf your calling him for being anti-sony but your coming across as aggressively pro-sony.

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