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Dean_W

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19th Feb 08 at 14:34

quote:
Originally posted by Marcus_corsa
well im not going down the throttle body route as yet,maybe for the future but not at the moment.

Once you've spent TB money, and not got TB power, then you'll regret it.

ive got a lexmaul inlet manifold already on it so thats sorted,ive got the janpspeed manifold, decat straight through on it aswell so thats a good start.

wheres the best place to get atp con-rod bolts and sbd metal rollers???

SBD

and where and what do i need for raised rev limit??

A re-map. Try speaking to MSD in blackpool, they can re-map the standard ECU for about £300.

wouldnt it be better to get the cams,pulleys and ported and polished head with atp con-rod bolts and sbd metal rollers before i get it remaped with raised rev limit surely for better results???

Re-mapping is the last thing you want to do.

Marcus_corsa

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19th Feb 08 at 18:38

so thats the right way to do it then, cams,pulleys and ported and polished head with atp con-rod bolts and sbd metal rollers then remaped with raised rev limit???

wheres the best place to get the con rods and metal rollers???

are they easy to fit??

Marcus_corsa

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19th Feb 08 at 20:14

Marcus_corsa

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21st Feb 08 at 16:45

Dean_W

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21st Feb 08 at 16:47

quote:
Originally posted by Marcus_corsa
wheres the best place to get the con rods and metal rollers???

are they easy to fit??

You want con rod bolts, not con rods. Both these and metal rollers can be bought from SBD.

I'd get someone to fit the rod bolts, as they need to be countersunk into the bottom of the rod.

Unless, your confident in doing that yourself.

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21st Feb 08 at 19:48

you might find that an 8v flywheel will make a differance too, helps the car rev up a bit quicker

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21st Feb 08 at 20:55

why not get a 1.6 c16xe/x16xe in there and add the existing parts and go from there??? possible??? surely worth starting with abit more?

Marcus_corsa

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22nd Feb 08 at 14:40

well ive the x14xe now and ive already got that parts on so for the minute ill be keeping it.

need some more advice guys??

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22nd Feb 08 at 15:13

better inlet

ffls

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22nd Feb 08 at 19:02

Cams 272deg with 10mm lift will be able to be run without pocket pistons, pulleys, new valve springs (this is a must). Original TB rebore (+4mm I've done it) Then remap the sd ECU.
You should achieve something like 130 bhp with that setup or maybe a bit more.

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23rd Feb 08 at 00:47

stu_22 ive already got a lexmaul inlet manifold

ffls isnt that abit high for cams, wouldnt it be better to go for something like 256???

what does the other stuff do?

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23rd Feb 08 at 00:55

quote:
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stu_22 ive already got a lexmaul inlet manifold

exactly you still have all the original restictive pipework behind the engine

Richardhhha

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23rd Feb 08 at 00:59

you got the inlet manifold

so all you need is someting like

cams 26... somthings will be ok power is from 2k till about 5.5k
bottom end to be ballanced.. will make the car more eager/easyer to rev,
lightened flywheel faster reving.
oversized bore on TB would be a nice addition,
Arp rod bolts.
Rased rev limit/full remap to suit mods.

should find the cars a lil beasty after that... will most prolly keep with more powerfull cars as it will rev quicker

Marcus_corsa

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23rd Feb 08 at 01:35

how do u go about bottom end ballancing???

oversized bore on TB?? whats that??

Richardhhha

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23rd Feb 08 at 01:58

basiucaly you get the throttle body, and have it machined out so that the internal diamiter is bigger thus letting more air through, as this is a majour restriction put in by vauxhall too!

and getting the bottom end ballanced is a extensive job really but does make a difference..

it involves taking the crank, pistons, con rods, front pulley out and sending it off to a company like Autosprint.co.uk as they will do it for £87.50 or something,,

Marcus_corsa

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23rd Feb 08 at 02:05

can you give me a list on what i need to do and where to get bits from and what sort of cost its gonna all be together??

Richardhhha

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23rd Feb 08 at 02:21

will do mate, have to be tomorrow as im shattered....

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23rd Feb 08 at 14:26

quote:
Originally posted by Marcus_corsa
stu_22 ive already got a lexmaul inlet manifold

ffls isnt that abit high for cams, wouldnt it be better to go for something like 256???

what does the other stuff do?

It is the "biggest" cam you can fit on a standard engine according to Dbilas.
I also have the bottom end balanced and lightened and it help reving off course.
A light flywheel would be useful too because the original ones wheights more then 12 kg!!!!!

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23rd Feb 08 at 15:11

for a flywheel you want something like this
SBD light weight flywheel, aprox 3.8kg
for cams go ether newmans or dbilas but dont go over 260 something deg.
bottom end ballancing as i said before is a good idea, go to somewhere like Autosprint

Marcus_corsa

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25th Feb 08 at 18:43

gonna start looking into engine mods now,

anyone else got any advice?

Richardhhha

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25th Feb 08 at 21:28

as promised i have done a lil break down for you.. this is what id personaly do to a X14XE if i had the time/space/facilities

Top end work

For headwork id ask Dave A where he got the 1.6 head done.. looks nice and will give a nice increase in BHP

Unfortunatly you will need to get rid of the lexemal inlet manifold.. they are still restrictive so would go for a manzel styled one.

Set of newman cams 264 deg "part number VUXT/264/380H" (newman state they are the ones for fast road, the 270deg ones you need to change injectors, thats what newman state)

Dibias (sp) virners (sp) they are the only ones that will let you run standard managment (might not be the only ones but thats what i know)

Bottom end Work

Arp rod bolts RB2K Heavy duty rod bolt 1.3/1.4/1.6L set & instructions can be sold singly (info from SBD website)

Lightweight flywheel FLY-W3 7.25" flywheel Corsa 1.6/1.4L 16V with slots approx 3.1kg
Ring gear FLY-RG1 sold separately approx 0.7kg Combined Weight approx 3.8Kg (info from SBD website)

Crank, Pistons, Con Rods, Front Pulley Ballanced
4-Cylinder - Full balance £84.50 (price is from Autosprint.co.uk, i enquired about getting this done myself and they state please when posting them the items make sure they are very very well wrapped and protected as they will get damaged otherwise!)
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if you do all of this you might aswell do a full rebuild.. cost a lil bit but results are worth it,

also if your into a bit of a shiny engine, i'd have a ganders at this guys work.
Stephen Smethurst

his work is great... can only get ally bits done but his work is awsom!!

Marcus_corsa

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27th Feb 08 at 00:24

thanks mate, thats a perfect break down of what i could do.

to be honest though the lexmaul seems to work well so would prob end up keeping this on, manzel ones are hard to get hold of now adays but if one came up would def consider getting it!!

how much power increase do you think i would achieve with all of this??

Dean_W

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27th Feb 08 at 10:01