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AK
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13th Jun 05 at 15:57   View User's Profile U2U Member Reply With Quote

Anyone fitted one?

What part no and did it need modified to fit?
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The fast road spec exhaust manifold, which takes up approximately the same space as the original XE manifold = Part no. EX-M-CAV-GSI16V.

high spec exhaust manifold that requires a 2.5” exhaust system is EX-M-AST3-S16V
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its the high spec i'm after....

but have a little email info from SBD themselves just now

'may need' modifying

Just wanting to know who/what/where

its the EX-M-AST3-S16V i'm after

feckit.... may as well get a manifold back 2.5" system made up too...
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http://www.corsasport.co.uk/board/viewthread.php?tid=215244
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what bore are we talking for the stainless junk joff?
James R
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Mild steel is the future

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quote:
Originally posted by Adam Kindness
what bore are we talking for the stainless junk joff?


When I spoke to Blueflame, I mentioned a 3" bore, similar to what J100's using on his Tony Law system, but I'd say 2.5" would be better for the majority.
Stainless is only because people like stainless steel for the sake of it. Mild wouldn't be a problem.
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Only need mild steel for the exhaust manifold.
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to need a 3" system you would need a mega tuned XE, like havign a turbo on it!

2.5" is nice for 230BHp ish nasp.

why have stainless when it cost double mild and won't last twice as long?
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With a custom manifold, the materials wouldn't double the price.
I've no preference to mild or stainless, whatever the majority want is fine by me. Anyone wanting mild or stainless could probably just request it anyway.
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id want whatever is cheapest as it will be wraped

count me in for a 2.5" manifold.... if the price is good...

What are they using as a pattern?

4-1, 4-2-1?
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wrap it and it won't last very long though, looks pretty
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Mild + wrap won't last long?

Or stainless + wrap won't last long?

What won't last?

Pattern is really to be decided. Prob 4-2-1 to keep the majority happy.
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why not rip off the SBD type C manifold??

exhaust+heat wrap won't last long, stainless or not. Although in the relativeley gental road use most will recieve may not be an issue.
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oh Ashely will already do a corsa-b specific manifold for 2L and system 2 box.

I could arrange a group buy, although it's in 2.25" which is fine for most 2L's that woudl want one.
would be in the region of 320-350 for the lot.

oh to add John would do a 2.5" one aswell, but that would cost a bit more, as the corsa just has a 2box 2.5" bore system and manifolf done for it.


[Edited on 13-06-2005 by j1400]
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quote:
Originally posted by j1400
why not rip off the SBD type C manifold??

exhaust+heat wrap won't last long, stainless or not. Although in the relativeley gental road use most will recieve may not be an issue.



I thought you meant the wrap would cause the metal to deteriorate or something. Wrap can always be redone.
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Phoned BTB this morning.... They supply SBD

For there Race system (good for upto 300bhp they say) is aprox £470 from them

i'm asuming thats the same as SBD's C...

email from them

I think the exhaust manifold you would need for that spec of engine is our EX-M-AST3-S16V which is £401.17 +VAT. It would probably need some modification to make it fit.


which works out at £471 or so
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Yeah it causes th emetal to deteriorate, I mean th ewhole lot won't last, sorry my wording is a bit poor.

that price from BTB is just the manifold no? I mean the whole manifodl and a 2box comp system
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ok....

can you find out a price for a 2.5" Ashley corsa specific c20xe manifold and system

(what does the 'system' include :boggle
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would include, the whole leot from the head to the pipe out the back.

but no rubbers.

If you want a one off manifold specifi to yoru cams etc. then you'd be lookgin at around 500 all in.
But for off th shelf it's much o cheaper as said.
what spec are you runnign anyways adam? the 225kit or equivalent to that? cause a 2.25" woudl be better suited ot that.
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284 cams...
head work
2100cc
TB's
reving to 8k or so

so around the tp225 sorta spec, but will be moving up the cam profiles fairly soon i think

[Edited on 14-06-2005 by Adam Kindness]
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steel rods and solid lifters?

Cause 230 is about the limit for the hydrolic lifters. so 2.5" woudl be a bit big really
in the ideal world.
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it's still on hyd just now...

But will be moving to solid top end, and possibly steel rods when its needing a rebuild
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SBD Type: A-2.0L-XE or EX-M-AST3-S16V



It can be modified to fit the MK2 Astra 16v High specification exhaust manifold It must be fitted with an exhaust system with a minimum diameter of 2.5". (when fitting all exhaust studs must be removed & replaced with cap head bolts)
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think the spec you'll be running, 2.25" woudl be better.

and dont' spend on the rods etc.. get a straight cut box

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