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Sam
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The other day I went into a Barclays branch and noticed they use Windows 2000

I'm having second thoughts about keeping ££££s with a bank that doesn't seem to use the latest technology available - surely Win2K is going to have some massive security holes? Not to mention they also use IE6.
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I'm a callout guy for the local Barclays round here, and they're all on XP.

When in a meeting with HSBC the other day, I noticed they're all on XP too.
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XP I can understand, but 2000? FFS
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Go in and offer to upgrade them, to put your mind at rest
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It's because the software was written a million years ago and probably won't work with anything newer.
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At work we have only just upgraded to XP. Only to support new SAP software, otherwise we'd still be on W2K.
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Fuckign shoddy that!
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quote:
Originally posted by Sam
The other day I went into a Barclays branch and noticed they use Windows 2000

I'm having second thoughts about keeping ££££s with a bank that doesn't seem to use the latest technology available - surely Win2K is going to have some massive security holes? Not to mention they also use IE6.


lol. I would not worry much.

In the corperate work its soo different to the home i.e. I recently worked with a with national bank on some of thier infrastructure and migrating them to the later version of our product. They were running on a version which was 7 years old and they were 1 year into planning for the roll-out and the version being rolled out has already been superceeded. The roll out will take another year at least.

i.e. In the business world anywhere with BIG important systems (read Banks etc) will often be 1-2-3 releases behind. Nothing from the norm.

Also Why would 2000 have massive security holes? It might be out of normal service but any company can pay MS to support a SOE and as such it will include security fixes. I would rather they ran the system on something they can have 100 confidence in than a system that has not been proven.
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Windows 2000 along with 98SE are probably m$'s best effort at an OS.

Both are rock solid.
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quote:
Originally posted by Rob_Quads
quote:
Originally posted by Sam
The other day I went into a Barclays branch and noticed they use Windows 2000

I'm having second thoughts about keeping ££££s with a bank that doesn't seem to use the latest technology available - surely Win2K is going to have some massive security holes? Not to mention they also use IE6.


lol. I would not worry much.

In the corperate work its soo different to the home i.e. I recently worked with a with national bank on some of thier infrastructure and migrating them to the later version of our product. They were running on a version which was 7 years old and they were 1 year into planning for the roll-out and the version being rolled out has already been superceeded. The roll out will take another year at least.

i.e. In the business world anywhere with BIG important systems (read Banks etc) will often be 1-2-3 releases behind. Nothing from the norm.

Also Why would 2000 have massive security holes? It might be out of normal service but any company can pay MS to support a SOE and as such it will include security fixes. I would rather they ran the system on something they can have 100 confidence in than a system that has not been proven.


This.

I'd must prefer my bank to be using a tried and tested, secure OS than a new one!
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Yes, as said its the difference between the corporate world and the home users.

Probably also the case that the PC's just run basic barclays software so not worth them spending thousands upgrading them to just run the same thing.

We have an old Win95 machine still in use as the software won't run on anything else, heard someone moaning the other day thats its slow, wtf do they expect

[Edited on 21-10-2010 by Ian W]
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This old stuff can cause massive problems if you need to upgrade 1 bit of kit somewhere, especially with everything being virtualised, I'm having a light headache with this atm.
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Our SCADA workstations and RTAP servers run on Windows NT
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We have a few VERY old file servers at work (which are to be retired at the next round of upgrades) which run Server 2000, most of our servers are 2003 and 2008 (a select few R2). Every workstation but ONE on our network is now Windows 7 (the recording studio is XP because the software we use is nothing short of SHITE!).

We use proper firewall and never have any security problems.
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Banking systems are ancient, we've got a client just now who deals with them, they've still got mainframes with console windows to connect to them
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Nothing like a bit of command line administration, oooo like Exchange 2010
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quote:
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Banking systems are ancient, we've got a client just now who deals with them, they've still got mainframes with console windows to connect to them


lol Are mainframes still old hat? When running the likes of CICS which all banks do, mainframes put distributed systems to shame.
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Naa this is an ancient one, it must work if they still use it, pita for everyone else that's in the 21st century though.

Stupid powershell causes it's own problems, it is a powerfull shell though
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I quote Microsoft "PowerShell does not and will not replace the CMD line"
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what's wrong with that, some modern trains on the British rail network run windows 3.x for stability reasons.
If it ain't broke don't fix it

In work we've just had a new computer with windows 7 on it... grr what a ballache to get our legacy software from windows xp running on it properly.

[Edited on 21-10-2010 by AlunJ]
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XP Mode?

I have a finance package from 2001 running on our Win7 computers here, few dirty little tricks and it works quicker than ever

[Edited on 22-10-2010 by pow]
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yeah it didn't run properly under windows 7 normally so had to put it into xp mode, then the software forgot all the server addresses
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quote:
Originally posted by oceansoul
At work we have only just upgraded to XP. Only to support new SAP software, otherwise we'd still be on W2K.


Good old SAP
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quote:
Originally posted by fro-dizzle
quote:
Originally posted by oceansoul
At work we have only just upgraded to XP. Only to support new SAP software, otherwise we'd still be on W2K.


Good old SAP


SAP
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SAP can suck my balls.

I have a SAP towel that I use when working on the car

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